[Munch]

Good Luck! and have fun!

[Munch]

LOL…. and…. Welcome…

BTW …. if your ever over ion the Triangle … give me a heads up.

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IT’s a definite what works for you kind of thing.

For him I only showed him or recommended it for him due to either his brain, or comfort level not allowing him to grasp just the push.

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Definitely not going against what MSF teaches…. I very much am grateful for what you guys do! Wouldn’t change a thing about the course.

Just offering a small change up for the very few that need…… an alternative to have that Aha! moment .

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Yea I thought about that also. And yes I have the LT but the fairing kit wasn’t even made for the Vulcans….. I have seen it on the Customs also.

I am gonna go darkside (aka car tire) due to over researching it and realizing that I can get triple the mileage, increased straight line traction for braking and wet weather and minimally give up cornering aspects. No probs since most my rides are Highway anyway going to and from a job I spend way to much time at.

If ya get bored go through the pics section and look up “Munch’s 9” and you can see the way my 9 looks now. Quick link since it took me a while to find it:

https://bestbeginnermotorcycles.com/forum/forum/2163/munchs-900

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Amen…. a man that gets it!

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Would like to make a small suggestion that might help you out. I have a buddy at work is learning how to ride and he had something of the same thoughts you did. His worry was about picking lines. So I rode with him and watched what he did. It may not be the same for you but just try it out and see if it helps.

Watching him I noticed that he was working hard to “stick to a line” , which was as MSF teaches you ….Outside, inside, outside. However for him it meant Near yellow line to white line back out to yellow line. I asked him if he realized how much lane he had to put our narrow motorcycles down was. He wasn’t sure what I meant, so when we back out , just before I told him to follow me and do what I did on the straights. Soon as wee got one I started slowing down a touch and started weaving back and forth. Watched him do the same and then pulled over and asked this time instead of doing what I did, watch my positioning and compare it to his sitting in the middle of the lane (which is where I told him to stay) . It hit him that our bikes aren’t as wide as cars and that you didn’t have to rail ride the turns. That the bikes took up all of about 3 feet in any given point (depending on your handle bar width) and had more then enough room to play with in turns.

After that realization we went back out and I noticed his turns were not only smoother but the ones that should have been a breeze for any rider to make with a small gesture wasn’t the scary knee draggin’ experience for him.

The only other thing I had him try out was something I am not sure only cruisers can get away with or not ….so may not apply to all since I have zero sport bike time. However he commented he was not keen on the “push ” to turn idea, said it felt like he was going to “fall ” into it rather then be in control……like someone knocking a bar rail out from under him. So I told him to try and pull with the opposite hand. Like driving a skid steer tractor or dozer. That gave him a much better feel for the bike then pushing did. I still do that at times….great thing is that once my brain grabbed what was going on on the very sharp, faster turns my brain kicks in the skid steer tractor idea and I both push and pull , giving me much more control on a harsh turn. May work for you ….may not.

Some times riding is just a mental game and you need to find safe alternatives to get your brain to re adjust. Is why after year 2 of riding I had started working on looking around while riding instead of straight lining my sight. Get to see so much more scenery that way :^) . Got to be a huge help to for hard banked exit ramps….especially here where the run out of your lane is extremely short and you either go, or go shoulder.

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Thanks for making an original post and not taking some one else’s. I wish Icould offer some help other then butt test everything you can to see what feels right. But I have no he as to what is offered across the pond. I do have a question. Exactly how much is 15 stones?

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Have never been legal really. If it isn’t DOT certified its illegal. Half helmets are expected to come down far enough to touch right at the top of your ears.

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Wasn’t really commenting on OP just wanted to keep some from a potential mistake. Brakes don’t really have back pressure so to speak. Just pressure then normal pressure (compression,decompression). When the brakes are applied the mechanism pushes on the fluid which has an effect like pushing on a plugged syringe…only the piston has give and that pressure forces the piston out to relieve excessive pressure and blowing a line or master body. Let off the pedal or lever and that pressure relaxes. Little to no back movement. Add ABS and you add a pump body that keeps a preset pressure in the system and monitors it. When it detects an excessive amount in a short time it springs into action by modulating the pressure. The only time more fluid is used is to fill the extra room left when the pads wear thinner

Another thing to add is there is no suction or back pressure to get the pads off the rotor. That job is left to the piston cup seal. It flexes with application then draws itself back to its original state from the beginning.

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The valves in the pump body are designed to allow pressure to go one way at a certain time… depending on the design of the ABS sending a back flow can mess the seals up on the valves or even the pressure sensors. Not to mention un intentionally trap air inside the body itself which is a huge pain to get out.

In the auto world especially in some cases you get the shade tree mechanic that makes this mistakes you have to get it bled out Via a computer that handles ABS.

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Do not try this brake bleed process on ABS equipped bikes. You can mess up the system.

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What abut the Vtwins have you set. Also don’t forget
to look used if your on a tight budget.

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The shadow would be fine. Just make sure to be careful at the onset so you can get used to the weight and low end torque. Other good ones is the Vstar650 , Vulcan 500, and Owlies bike.
Where in NC are you?

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Whatever it takes to get it done! Besides….unless you have blue tooth and its turned on ….. your the o nly one in your helmet…. chatter it up!

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