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I’ve gotta agree with Clay here. Your bike, while it is a great bike, is caught in a black hole of depreciation. But all is well if you’re buying BMW’s and Triumphs
I love it. You would be rich within the week, Eternal!
Like I said, good for product views. He does usually get into detail about cool features or how things work, but when he starts yelling, erm, I mean, TALKING about how it performs on the road, how it feels, and other things that are personal to individual riders…just mute your speakers because he loves anything for motorcycles.LOL, bigg, I appreciate the insight, but I have already been riding dirt bikes, and I passed my BRC in February with flying colors, so I have my M endorsement in hand. I have great coordination and balance on bikes and they just feel great, as I’m sure you already know!
I have taken all the right safety steps to get where I am today, and now I’m just plain excited! WooHoo!Welcome to the forums. Great community of experienced riders, and beginners as well. You should find it very useful no matter the type of bike you are looking for!
“Any customer who knows about linear throttle response also knows that MSRP ain’t the best he can do, a good salesperson should recognize this and it should eliminate some of the BS.”
Most salesmen that I have dealt with try to sell for the highest price possible. It is only when they are faced with a customer walking away, when they could have lowered the price and made a sale, that they agree to lower the price. I say “most salesmen” because this is not true with all, but it is this methodology that I usually use to communicate to the sales person the extent to which I am serious about getting a good deal or no deal at all. I do my research, I determine a best price, and I’ll fight for it because I know it is a price they will take (based on my research). I do not try to rip them off or present unreasonable pricing options, I simply try to point out that it is possible to sell me item X for price Y. If they disagree I walk away…and they usually come to their senses. I have walked out of several places after having respectable offers denied, but EVERY SINGLE one has chased after me and accepted my offer. I have never walked away empty handed, ever. So yes, a good salesperson SHOULD recognize a knowledgeable and patient buyer such as myself, but in my experience, they don’t usually, and so I result to the methods that they do understand.
As for the Socratic argument on me contradicting myself- The conversation I held with the salesman at Kelly’s lasted under 1 minute, maybe an entire minute, I mean, how long did it take you to read the dialogue? My experiment on this trip was to find out if this dealer (who I wouldn’t otherwise consider) was in the realm of possibility by association to a low price. I went in with an intent to find out whether they would bite or not. He didn’t and so I walked. If I wanted to waste his time, I would have sat there and politely argued my case, probably thrown out there how I have seen other dealerships selling 2009 650R’s for $900 off MSRP (which would NOT be a lie). If I didn’t care about wasting time, I would TRY. But I don’t handle dealerships like that. I go in, I skip the sales pitches and driveway pipe-dreams, I give them a price point, and they either accept it or deny it. I go in on a mission to purchase for a specific price. If we’re considering that I was wasting this guys time in that one-minute exchange, then I would argue that any time you or I make a request for anything, and it is denied, then the entire exchange of words was a waste of time. I have to ask the guy if he’ll sell me the bike for under MSRP to find out if he will sell it to me for under MSRP!
