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September 25, 2008 at 2:18 am in reply to: MSF School: Waste of time, waste of money, both, or none of the above……Flamers flame on. #12704AmorylParticipant
actually I skilled most of the vitriol but thanks for thinking I slogged through all the playground thingie waving
AmorylParticipantwith cruisers the issue isn’t so much with the speed, like you said, but with the weight. and generally you can fudge more with the cc’s so long as you can handle the weight difference. the good thing about those lil 250cc cruisers is that they’re much lighter than their bigger brothers, and as many people say that the seating position on the cruiser already puts people at a disadvantage in slow speed turns and such to begin with, having a lighter bike that you don’t have to wrestle around a turn is a good thing.
personally I’d say if you don’t do the 250, then stick to either the 500 or the 650 tops, 750’s are really starting to get heavy. remember if you forget the kickstand, or any number of things, it’s enough of a hit to your ego to have to pick it back up, it’s even worse to have to get someone to come over and help you lift your bike up, because it’s 600lbs
September 24, 2008 at 5:16 am in reply to: MSF School: Waste of time, waste of money, both, or none of the above……Flamers flame on. #12633AmorylParticipantthat was me.
if they were overwhelmed due to special demands from disabled people, then sucks to be you, but crap happens. if they were just lazy and bored, then they suck and make a stink. if it was somewhere inbetween, talk to someone, explain that you really felt as though there was far too much going on with them that resulted in not having been given “proper” instruction. mention their barely passing nods at you while you were clearly making mistakes out there and not receiving any correction or advice. see if they can slip you into at least the hands on part of another class, one where the instructors won’t be quite so…distracted. many times businesses are willing to work with someone if that doesn’t result in a cash refund. I doubt they’ll put you back through the entire class, but they might let you take the riding part again, especially since you’ve got your own bike to practice on. or they might not…either way, doesn’t hurt to ask.
AmorylParticipantI think the issue with many of those bikes, not just the 250, with the fairings and such is that often things like the headlight and some of the other nessisary parts are mounted in the fairings, and removing them makes having a legal/safe bike….difficult.
September 24, 2008 at 2:39 am in reply to: MSF School: Waste of time, waste of money, both, or none of the above……Flamers flame on. #12619AmorylParticipantsorry, didn’t realise I wasn’t signed in
AmorylParticipantI think it’s pretty commonly advised here to not have ANY passenger with only 500 miles under your belt. you gotta ask yourself “Am I in as much control as humanly possible by myself? have I learned the habits needed to react instinctively to the vast numbers of events that can surprise me at a moment’s notice? do I know where the apex is, and can I hit it smoothly? is my shifting smooth, and my turns confident?” if you’re still at all shakey on turns, or shifting then you have no business with a passenger, as she’ll constantly throw off the balance by fidgeting or leaning the wrong way, or straightening when she should be leaning.
AmorylParticipantyou know I saw a comparison on car vs bike, and it was TOTALLY skewed. they compared, if I recall correctly, a brand new high end touring bike with a civic. the author further assumed either A) your car was still being paid for and added that to the cost of buying a bike “because you can’t save money by spending more money on another vehicle if you’re still paying off the vehicle you’re trying to replace” which technically makes sense, but I personally don’t think that other vehicles should be factored into the bike cost. then they factored the $18grand for the touring bike vs the $12 or so grand a civic costs (or whatever they cost…) then factor in the touring bike’s average 40ish mpg vs a civic’s 35ish and clearly the savings are minimal at best.
which I felt was comparing apples to garden gnomes. you pick one of the most expensive, heaviest, and worst gas milage bikes on the road, and compare it to one of the cheapest, smallest, most fuel efficient cars on the road. why not compare it to a humvee? if you used that one, chances are, even a touring bike’ll be cheaper to run. if you want to work the civic angle, how bout a V-Star 250? 80? 90mpg? $3500? add a grand (the comparison added like $2500 because he only wears “the absolute top of the line” gear) for the gear, and you’re still buying a new V-Star 250 for what would be a good price on a gently used civic. there’s a lot of tire changes and tune ups before you catch up with the civic. I think he also threw in the whole upgrading the bike in a couple months thing…because you know it’s a requirement to move up from a touring motorcycle to…what? an OCC custom chopper? that bike thats powered by a helicopter turbine?
it seems the general concept that in the long haul it’s not that much cheaper, and it ends up being more expensive due to our general inability to ride a bike like we drive a car, point A to point B no frills commuting.
me, my cage is a 95 jeep wrangler, gets around 15-17mpg. has been paid off for years, and has a growing number of repair costs vs a V-Star 250 that’ll cost $4000ish out the door, add another $700 for gear (i can get cheaper, but who cares) so it’ll still be cheaper than trading in my jeep for a new cage. but hey if we want to talk bike cost itself, I paid $17k for the jeep 10 years ago.and I’ll get a conservative 70mpg on the V-Star, or go with a hyosung gv 250 and get a comfortable 60mpg still leaps and bounds better than my jeep even in it’s hayday. AND it’ll be more fun (though the jeep IS fun, don’t get me wrong)
AmorylParticipantthat was one of the first things I learned, but by then I was already caught.
as far as cheaper or not…compared to a civic…no, but compared to a 13yr old Jeep Wrangler thats running out of things to replace….we’ll see
AmorylParticipantI pay about $20 a week for my jeep, but I only really drive durring the weekends. my cargo van averages about $40 a day, but I can’t swap that out for a motorcycle, much as I’d like to. I figure it takes about $160 to fill my gas tank at current gas prices…in the van
AmorylParticipantthey gave pretty crappy mpg’s all across the board, so I’m not really paying attention to that part. I’m more interested in actual people’s reviews than a magazine or e-zine anyway.
It’ll likely be in berkley/sf/east bay area where i get my bike. I don’t trust my skills enough to make a trek down to so cal and ride it bak up.hmmm if I had access to a trailer to haul a bike…..
AmorylParticipantyou know what I love? all those fees added to used vehicles. when I bought my jeep neigh on 10 years ago, I was going through the paperwork afterwards and found they’d tacked on $300 for undercarriage rustproofing that was done by the original owner before he traded it in. but apperently it was on there, so they effing charged me for it.
by the way, I’m missing something here…was someone offended by the word “crap”? if so the post is gone.
AmorylParticipantI’m hoping to get my motorcycle next year after I move to SF. in the meantime I’ll be reading up on everything I can about all things motorcycle. I’m hoping to be able to take a maintinence class or something, save some cash on oilchanges and do minor repairs myself. the more I get into the idea of riding a motorcycle, the more I’m interested in the whole thing. I honestly started looking as a way to save gas, and now I’ve bought into the whole deal hook line and sinker…it’s like crack! but only slightly more expensive
AmorylParticipantI’m still on the edge between the virago and the hyosung, but if I end up picking up the GV250, it’ll be because of you
AmorylParticipantand you’re one of the ones I figured have been riding forever. well gives me some hope for those bay area rides once I get there.
AmorylParticipantit’s a homebrew modification of one of those electric dog collar. you prolly don’t want to know what it wraps around.
also…don’t go swimming when you think you might be a jackass
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