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Review of the CFMoto JetMax 250i
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TrialsRider
Participant“…But dirt riding also is usually more aggressive — the general mentality of my MX racing buddies is if you don’t crash occasionally you aren’t trying hard enough.”
:i …times 4 for trials, if you crash a section on the first lap, you still have three more times to get it right
…positive insentive to do better.
In dirt you learn the art of front to back balance much quicker then having only ridden pavement, it’s not like you can ever learn to catwalk on a public road, how much front brake is too much, or what would it actually feel like to hop that curb in an emergency.TrialsRider
ParticipantYou’re a big little guy ! And quick to respond too, guess that comes with being a gamer
If you could have Any bike, what would it be ?:iTrialsRider
ParticipantI know you won’t believe it when I say you have wise parents and your idea just goes to show how little ‘control’ we as parents have over our offspring
I’m pretty sure your folks are going to see right through your plan once they see that bike though, and what’s with this ‘before I can get a real one’ stuff
You’re just lucky you’re not my kid or you’d have to ride up rocks like this before you turned 16 :i
…without putting a foot down !:o
BTW: don’t take everything I write too serious, I figure we’re here for a good time and sometimes my warped sense of humor shines through
On the serious side; It’s easier to ride (dry) pavement with full knobbies than to ride dirt with street tires as others have correctly pointed out, KLX250SF as equipped is more street than dirt and not a perfect choice if you can’t ride on pavement legally yet.
Maybe you can give us a little more info about where you intend to ride and how big of a little guy you are plus if you have any previous riding experience because KLX is a lot more motorcycle than you might think. It has a very tall saddle compared to sport bikes and suspension travel to spare.
Welcome to BBM
TrialsRider
ParticipantMV Agusta has been picked up by Motovan & they will be importing them to Canada by 2012. I just placed my order for an F3
…hope it actually happens, the price is TBA but I want one just the same.
Honey, can I have an MV, can I have an MV, can I have an MV;)BTW: I like that GSX650F of the bunch so far
TrialsRider
ParticipantI think this bike might just be too sexy to pass up.
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/61396/Motorcycle-Photo-Gallery-Photo/MV-Agusta-F3-First-Look.aspx
…seeing as BMW has not come through with producing the concept 6, I might have to get me an MV next yearTrialsRider
ParticipantThe following wind drag coefficient values were compiled from various sources and should only be
considered as a guide.
Being a chart this may not come out very nice, but I’ll try and clean it up later;)Bike ________Rider – prone ____sitting
Yamaha Venture _____________ 0.75
Honda V65 Magna_____________0.61
Honda Blackbird _____ 0,44_____0,81
Honda VF1000F _____ 0.40 _____0.45
Aprilia Mille_________0,52 _____0,61
Ducati 916 _________ 0,57______0,69
BMW R1100 RT ______0,53______0,97
BMW K100RS ________0.40 _____0.43
Yamaha FJ1100______0.43 _____0.48
Kawasaki GPZ900R____0.36_____0.43
Suzuki GSX1100EF ____ 0.41_____0.44
Suzuki GSXR750 ______0.32
Suzuki Hayabusa _____ 0.31
Kawasaki ZX-12R_____ 0.34
Yamaha OW69________0.32
Honda 1996 RS125____ 0.20
Honda 1990 RS125 ____0.19
Honda RS500________ 0.24…sure would be nice to see these numbers as included in standard specifications for all bikes.
TrialsRider
ParticipantI wrote a lengthy mechanical description of the two, then realized you really care about the result, not the mechanics involved. So here is the most basic of observations for you to consider. If you want the long, technical version just ask
On an automatic motorcycle you are stationary as long as the engine is at idle. To go you speed up the engine and there is a slight lag time or delay before you start to move. The more throttle you apply the faster the engine revs and the faster you go, until you eventually achieve the motorcycles top speed. It’s just like a snowmobile, if you have ever ridden one of those. Now that you are going fast and the engine is spinning like crazy, you might want to slow down, so you let off on the throttle and the motor slows you down rather quickly. If you are not slowing down enough you might even need to additionally apply some brakes. If you want to go faster again you need to get back on that throttle quite hard and eventually things will speed up again. With an automatic motorcycle, you better like the sound of a high revving motor, because you are going to be hearing it a lot. The connection between the engine and the rear wheel is not as positive as in a standard transmission vehicle, almost like having a big spring in there that you have to wind up to make it go.
Both automatics and standards have a clutch that uses friction to couple or decouple the spinning engine from the rear wheel. The clutch in an automatic is engaged by revving up the engine
centrifugal force ), where on a standard the clutch is operated by your left hand lever. ( finger force
On a motorcycle the automatic transmission has a rubber belt that will eventually need to be replaced, the standard uses gears that run in oil and the oil will need to be changed regularly.
With the Standard transmission you manually select the gear appropriate to the road speed you wish to attain, neutral goes nowhere, first gear to go slow and upwards through the gear ranges to go faster and faster. Within the operating range of each gear selected your engine speed is directly controlled by the throttle, speeding up the engine goes faster, slowing the engine goes slower and the relationship between engine speed and road speed is very direct and positive. Learning to drive a standard is undeniably harder, but there are benefits and once you have been operating standard for a while, you don’t even think about it, all the actions become very natural. ( like breathing ) Having learned to drive a standard you will be able to ride any motorcycle. Standard transmission motorcycles slightly outperform automatics in all aspects including engine longevity and fuel economy. Standards are more fun to ride.
BTW …as you might guess I’m slightly bias, but my wife and daughter both drive standard and prefer them to automatics.
TrialsRider
ParticipantI honestly think that considering engine displacement alone is a poor measure of a motorcycles highway suitability and ‘highway’ is a relative thing, worlds apart if you live right next to 401 Expressway or Pacific Coast Hwy#1.
Say you’re traveling from Montreal to Detroit, do you need to pull 80mph to pass a transport truck that is spilling gravel or spewing chunks of retread down 401? It’s either that or drop way back and get ready to experience traffic tailgate and imminently faced with second hand road debris.
A full fairing and sportbike rider position makes more difference in the real world. Wind is the greatest enemy for sustained highway speed and if you are wind slippery like a Ninja significantly less HP is required. Legal speed yes, but if you ride with arms splayed and pant leg parachutes, a 250 with tall bars and highway pegs will never pull 80mph passes.
BTW, it’s a demonstrable fact that a standard bike with a handlebar windshield is actually slower than a naked bike with the rider tucked in.
…alas, I have to go plow snow now
TrialsRider
ParticipantOnce again Honda N.A. failed to grace us with a superlative model, but a good number of them found there way here just the same. They do show up used in Kijiji.ca on occasion.
TrialsRider
ParticipantFor 1 up riding only and being a lightweight I feel highway comfortable on a 350cc multi or a 500cc single. For 2 up 500cc multi is minimal and 750 or liter bikes are considerably safer.
As the question was “how small do you think an engine can be before it’s too small to be ridden safely on a highway?” My response of 250cc is based on the fully faired Honda CBR250RR four cylinder, which is undeniably highway capable and the smallest displacement motorcycle to merit that status.
Production: 1986-1996
Engine: 250cc 4 stroke inline 4
Top Speed: 180-200km/h (110-120 mph)
Power: 40-45 PS (29-33 kW)
Transmission: 6 speed
Curb Weight: 157kg (350lbs)1986 and 87 models were equipped with twin front disk brakes
1988 and later models were equipped with single disks and speed limiters set to 185 km/h
1990-99 had aluminum frame upgrades, but retained or increased the power restrictions to further detune the performance of the original engine design.TrialsRider
ParticipantCareful guys, BBM is presently virus infected, it happened earlier this week so if you use Windoze it’s time to do some clean-up. …or buy a Mac
January 6, 2011 at 6:21 pm in reply to: One possible tactic for cars making a left turn toward you #29005TrialsRider
ParticipantSome interesting concepts being presented here: intimidation, hand gestures, stand up riding lol. Reminds me of how a toad blots up to make himself look too big to swallow. Good to see I’m not the only one here with a hyperactive sense of humor.
I like the rule they taught us in Karate: No be there …hence the need for faster more agile motorcycles
TrialsRider
ParticipantStill have both street bikes that I bought new, 1982 Ascot and 1986 BMW, bailed on the Honda 350F because the primary chain was stretched when I bought it. Wife still has her 1975 Suzuki TS185. Milestone will be when they qualify for vintage insurance.
TrialsRider
ParticipantIt’s good to see anything that stimulates interest in the sport of motorcycling, even if it is just a movie and as you see we really don’t want to discourage your interest here. You did set your sights pretty high with this one though, considering the reason they feature big Ducati motorcycles, is to portray a bunch of people living an extravagant life style. Eterneal gave excellent advice and if you can find a Ninja 250 or similar, fairing destroyed bike and you are handy with a wrench, you just might bring this thing in close to budget. …example:
It will help to figure out what attracts you to that particular machine, is it the color, lines, riding position, (or just the hot chick on the back;) then exercise some imagination how you can make it work. The thing I see first see when I look at the Ducati Streetfighter is the everything Black, except for those beautiful Gold anodized USD (Up Side Down) front forks. &BTW:( the forks and headlight alone would cost 2G’s) plus the ‘zig-zag girder’ style frame in silver which Gary pointed out as being imitated on the SV650. …The SV would make a better start point, but cost would surely be much higher than a Ninja, sure hope this helps some.
Search zimbio.com for “Wall Street Motorcycle” to find pictures of the actors riding the bike, I like the one where it’s securely bolted to a trailer. Also note where Shia’s actually riding the bike he maintains only 2 fingers on the clutch and brake, me thinks he had some training !
TrialsRider
ParticipantThere are a lot of amazing things that you can do with a motorcycle, as vehicles go they excel at almost everything; acceleration, braking, climbing, jumping, you name it. Most impress me and make me proud to be a biker, but the one thing I just loathe seeing is a motorcycle doing a burnout. Burnouts are wasteful, dangerous and totally unremarkable, unless things go wrong.
If you disagree and just gotta prove yourself a total idiot by attempting a motorcycle burnout, here are some tutorials and training videos to help you along the way:
No Safety Gear Required: No helmet gloves or protective gear, after all, you’re not going anywhere so that stuff is way too hot anyway. The objective of a burnout is to off-load the rear wheel and spin it up to a hundred rpm or better, thus creating a terrible smell, waste of fuel, damage stuff and totally prove you are one cool ass.
Preferred Attire: Flip-flops and a T-shirt seems to be a favorite for burnouts, casual street clothes and maybe a baseball cap are also acceptable.
Minimum Requirements: Any motorcycle (the more expensive and powerful the better), one or more spectators plus one complete moron to twist the throttle.Now for those promised training videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3548XIKZO0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNin0ATI6Zg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ1eMYdLKrs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ4K_06Dd1g
After you’ve perfected a basic burnout, it’s time to kick it up a notch, put on some actual riding gear and demonstrate a professional burnout:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCW4nOdqcL8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeX5qPEYxzM…was inspired to write this after stumbling on one of these YouTube clips, hope you don’t mind me slipping it into this thread, it seemed slightly appropriate. Happy New Year:)
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…positive insentive to do better.
You’re just lucky you’re not my kid or you’d have to ride up rocks like this before you turned 16 :i
…hope it actually happens, the price is TBA but I want one just the same.

centrifugal force ), where on a standard the clutch is operated by your left hand lever. ( finger force 

