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Honda Grom: Beginner Bike Profile + Owner Reviews
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I do that with my light bikes, but the K bike at 500+ lbs would bring my garage ceiling down to meet the floor:| Standard K100 bars might offer lots of attachment points too, but the RS is all body work and dash padded flat bar, it’s a real hazard to elevate it for service:(
Question for A, your front wheel looks small, has your bike been fitted with a newer model, smaller front rim? Front fork brace is a very slick add on and mine is reliant on the big titanium axle for all it’s fork rigidity, I could never figure out how to brace it like that.
TrialsRiderParticipantCylinder head off to the left side maybe, but A’s bike has the belly pan added from a newer model K bike. Oil pan runs the length of the block and nothing but water pump housing in front of that. You can put her on the center stand and have the wife sit on the passenger saddle, that will raise the front wheel safely (as long as she doesn’t dismount quickly) Jacking against the side stand would put the bike on a wicked lean angle and K100 is an extremely heavy motorcycle, you don’t want it falling.
Interesting sidenote: K bikes don’t have a stupid kill switch on the side stand, they have a cable that runs off the clutch lever cable and that flips up the side stand incase you forget and leave it down… clever Bavarians;)
TrialsRiderParticipantWould really look fly with a gunfighter seat and low bars. …there is no lower frame to jack against. Use the center stand almost any time you park it, oil leaks into the cylinders real easy on the side stand with the 85. Lawn tractor battery can be made to fit if you want to save 100+$
Wait until you see how fast she is, caution though, it takes a lot of open space to find the rev limiter in the top three gears 😮
PS. Steel wool works great on the dull aluminum.
TrialsRiderParticipantMaybe we could rename er ‘Best Expert Motorcycle’ and bring em back for a second loop;)
Jeff & I certainly struggled to stir the shite in here lately to no avail, sigh.
PMA! there’s only inches of snow and ice remaining on my sections, time to go buy a fresh garden tractor battery for the Beemer and dump that snotty old fuel outa the Montesa and into ye thirsty lawn tractor. I’m officially declaring March 2 4 as the start of My riding season.
Keep those feet up and salute when you see the Motorcycle guys & girls.
…specially the girls:iTrialsRiderParticipant…but maybe it’s where I get decent balance from
TrialsRiderParticipantMotus Brakes are by Brembo, and suspension is by Öhlins, oops, so much for buying American. Wow, the motor only weighs 130lbs. …hmmm, add another 70 for the transmission, guess we’ll never know how that spec stacks up against the competition since you’d have to saw the transmission off most bikes to know what the motor only weighs. Speaking of competition, who would that be? …BMW and Honda Sport-Touring bikes both have world class Shaft drive systems, Motus a chain. woo-hoo “Best in Class” is a shoe-in.
OMG Check out the Motus idea of rigorous testing, 2 guys are going to ride the 2 prototypes across the country with a team of engineers following along to fix things, at the same time they will be visiting potential dealers across the country. …isn’t testing normally performed non-stop on a test track American Dream or embarrassment ! Cummon guys if you’re going to design a world class motorcycle don’t do it over beers, if Motus flys I’m going to bring back Plastic Engine Technology!
TrialsRiderParticipantLook at the smooth flowing lines and those…
…na never mind, it was just one of those spontaneous reaction things 😮
TrialsRiderParticipantMotus is a prototype only showcased with a strictly competition exhaust, minus a catalytic converter that will most certainly be needed before it goes production, presently too loud to be ridden legally in many cities but we already have the impressive horsepower numbers (given an engine with half the displacement). If Motus wants to be a Sport Touring bike that sells itself based on torque, why doesn’t it just go Diesel? A quiet exhaust IS a feature on a sport tourer. but as for longer travel throttle being a feature for anything, never heard of that one, the guy looks like he’s flapping one wing!
USA has an impressive history of innovation I would Love to see resurface in the motorcycle world, but I fear we’re still waiting, that bikes frame and styling screams ‘copied from Ducati’, the exhaust note blats ‘I can sound like 2 Harleys’ and the motor raves ‘look ya’ll a dern good four cylinder Nascar engine’. Do we know if the suspension components and brakes are borrowed from another bike or scratch design and built ?
If I sound harsh it could be the 5 day soar throat and head cold:( …but at least we’re entertaining the lurkers eh Jeff;)
TrialsRiderParticipantThink you are missing the point of the thread, I was trying to show there is still purpose and appeal in sub 250cc motorcycles and that once you loose interest in that little beginner bike it can have more value then it’s weight in scrap metal
As for the Motus video I will say it’s loud, (sounds like a Corvette with straight pipes operating on 4 cylinders) but at :48 and 1:28 into the video note how the rider grabs an elbow full of throttle, that’s either very poor riding style or a 3/4 turn throttle in action. Both the linked and related dyno videos demonstrate an engine exhibiting lame acceleration and pushrods that limit it to ~6K red line. They claim an impressive 140HP from a 1645cc engine which is comparable to the MV F3 675cc triple. Sorry to slam the thing but I think they should put a great big 1645cc sticker on the side so it’s clear what the target market is, that and a 1/4 turn throttle.
TrialsRiderParticipantTry current price $4.73 per US gallon (1.25 per liter) for regular grade fuel at our pumps right now, and I live in an oil producing country lol …I have a bet on that it will see 2$ per liter before 2012. Diesel fuel is just as bad and 100$ doesn’t even come close to filling my truck any more.
TrialsRiderParticipantTrialsRiderParticipantthe Ryca is a 650, I was aiming much lower
Ducati Monza 250
Honda 250 Single
Honda 250 Twin
TrialsRiderParticipantI concur the manual is little more than a guide, check out the “Parts requiring Periodic Replacement” list in my comp bike manual for some shocking recommendations:
Piston – Every Year, Piston Ring – Every Half Year, Transmission Oil – Every 3 races, Clutch slave piston seals – Every year, Radiator coolant Every year, Brake Hose – Every year, Front Master Cylinder Assy – Every year, Fork oil – Every 3 races and my personal favorite; Spark Plug Cap – Every 3 races
Has anyone here ever replaced a Spark Plug Cap due to “Contamination or emulsification” ?:iTrialsRiderParticipantFirst you should identify your chain as being a regular roller chain or a sealed roller chain (O-ring, X-ring etc.) sometimes referred to as a maintenance free or low maintenance chain.
With roller chain the lubricant is critical to the chains operation, both for it’s ability to effectively transfer power and to limit chain and sprocket wear. On any roller chain sealed or otherwise, the extreme friction load is born exclusively by the chains internal pins and rollers. The pins being riveted to the outside plates and rollers riveted to the inside plates. On a regular roller chain the space between the inside and outside plates is clearance and this is the same space where they add seals to make it a sealed chain. On a low maintenance sealed chain the primary function of any lubricant that you add is to inhibit rust of the parts that you can see. The same seals on a low maintenance chain that seal IN the original manufacturers grease also seal OUT water, dirt plus any oil that you apply to it’s outside surfaces. If you could lubricate a sealed chain rollers and pins just by pouring or spraying oil on it, you could probably top up your engine oil just by pouring oil all over the engine …and good luck with that.
If appreciable friction did exist between a roller chain and it’s sprockets, you could not run aluminum sprockets with a steel chain …but you can and they work just dandy. Never had to replace an aluminum sprocket myself because I do clean and lube my chains and clean my sprockets.
(The only sprockets that do require grease are those found on chain saw blades, which btw are Not sealed)Sealed chains are slightly heavier, wider and far more expensive compared to standard roller chains, the seals contribute to slightly elevated friction then would be found in a properly maintained standard roller chain. This is why some competition bikes still run regular roller chain. Sealed chains are popular on street bikes because they run clean and require far less maintenance (lubrication).
With sealed chains; clean frequently and lubricate occasionally, with standard chains; lubricate frequently and clean occasionally. Any chain that is stretched needs replacing or it will destroy your sprockets.
Any wheel bearings that are worn should be replaced or they will cause wear of your chain, sprockets, brakes and significantly detract from the motorcycles handling.
BTW: Chains are not the most frequently overlooked maintenance item on a motorcycle, front fork oil changes are.
TrialsRiderParticipantwhen looking for these vids, how so many people think toe thong flip flops or low cut runners are suitable footwear for riding!
If this was a light bike with standard bars the slow speed stall & fall would never happen and notice how easy it was for the 2 guys to pick the 750gsxr back up. …not clear why the second thing a learner needs is, how to 180 on a side stand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqndJr1zOpkTerrible vid quality but look how much quicker this guy is learning basics on a full scale 50cc dirt bike, also notice how much easier he recovers from a near stop and fall. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs1yW9FEc2E
This squid actually looks like he’s ridden before, after all he’s doing a burnout right from the get go. Oh, oh he’s got both feet dragging, how do you operate the back brake like that? …never mind obviously it can’t be done. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLwCm3tEZOs foot dragging = 0 control
just listen to the power on this first time riders bike, …right before he hits the wall
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