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How to Get Your Child to Wear His Motorcycle Helmet All Times
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eternal05
ParticipantYou’ll really enjoy that bike. If you have any questions, just ask. There are a bunch of people on this forum with your same bike (including me
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Now go ride!
eternal05
ParticipantEDIT: OH NO, IT’S ANOTHER ETERNAL WALL OF TEXT!
My experience wasn’t quite the same, but one aspect of my first track day experience was: by the end of lap one of session one of track day one, I was wondering how I was going to afford all the track days I just had to do.
I started riding my own motorcycle at the end of ’07 on one of the new ’08 Ninja 250s. I would have started sooner, but as soon as the new-gen 250s went to press, I new I had to wait for the only 250 that, in my mind, didn’t look like poo. Ordered one as soon as dealers allowed it.
Now I have to say, motorcycling itself kind of happened like track days for me. The truth is I’ve been a car man all my life. From the time I was a little (and I mean LITTLE) kid, I was utterly obsessed with cars, driving, and racing. When I was 9 years old, my family was on road trip and we saw a book called the 1994 New Car Report. It was about 600 pages thick with a full two-three page review of every car from major manufacturers available for sale in the US. By the end of the road trip, it was committed to memory, not because I wanted to memorize it, but because I read through it so avidly again and again while sitting in my parents’ backseat. When my parents finally lifted their ban on video games and let me buy an original Playstation with cobbled together stacks of dollar bills and quarters, I spent the rest of my weekends playing Gran Turismo with my friends. My dad, a professor, was worried that a kid that could point out make/model/year of any car on the road from 100ft was going to fail out of school for lack of interest in anything else. Thankfully, he was wrong, but you get my point.
I’d always wanted to try riding a motorcycle though, so I took the BRC in mid ’07. At first it was really hard for me. As I’ve mentioned before, I used to be a hardcore road rider (bicycle rider, that is), and not being able to “hold on” to the handlebars on a motorcycle really messed up my throttle control for a while. Those starting drills were real hard for me. But once we got to the faster drills where my bike handling skills and comfort came into play, I was in heaven. It was just like being on a bike…but I DIDN’T HAVE TO PEDAL! That moment was the start of my motorcycling obsession.
As for track days, I got into them pretty early on, and in much the same fashion. I’d always wanted to try a track day with a car, but the risk of crashing a car was just too high, and that would cost an arm and a leg to fix. Motorcycles, on the other hand, could be expensive, but even a totalled bike wouldn’t cost me as much as doing serious damage to my daily driver. Finally, one of my friends got me to try a track day with him (he’d never been either). It seemed very expensive, and while I was excited as all hell, I figured it would be a one-time fun experience and that would be that. But it only took two minutes for me to realize I was going to have to do that sort of thing a lot. Just too much damn fun.
Track days aren’t terribly expensive at face value. Here in Seattle there’s a very technical, interesting track a mere 35-45 minutes away. No problem. Each track day, if you pre-register, costs about $175, and if you compare it to something like go-karting (not real Kart racing, but just indoor go-karting), it’s much cheaper per minute. Go-karting usually runs about $15 for 10 minutes: $1.5 per minute. Track days are usually between $0.50 and $1 per minute. And you’re at a real track. And you’re on a real machine.
The catch is that you’re going to inevitably want to spend a crapton of money to make track days easier. First off, you’ll want a trailer. Riding to and from the track has many downsides. You can’t take tools, water, food, or clothing with you. More importantly, however, you are really in no position to ride home after whizzing around a track at 165mph all day long. You’re tired, sore, possibly braindead, and your sense of speed is totally out of whack.
So you buy a trailer.
But now that you have a trailer, you need a way to attach your bike. Inevitably, you’ll go the “cheap route” and get some ratchet straps. But then you’ll blow a fork seal, or your bike’s bodywork will get damaged, and you’ll decide to spring for one of these: a strapless trailer restraint.
Then you realize “crap, if I have a bad crash, I’m going to destroy all these expensive OEM parts.” So you go about systematically replacing all sorts of parts with cheaper race equivalents. I’ve replaced my levers, my rearsets, my clip-ons, my front frame, my exhaust, and now my bodywork.
After a while, you start getting faster, and boy, for those of you who haven’t been to a track, once you start really pushing your tires, they get DESTROYED. Check out these used tires:
So not only are you forced to buy grippier and grippier (and more expensive) tires the faster you get, but you also have to replace them more often (grippier usually means softer which usually means shorter life). I’m not terrifyingly fast, so I get about 4 track days out of a set of tires. I know people who manage only one or two days out of their tires (we’re not talking slicks here). In any case, that’s another $250-350 every couple of track days. Once you start getting really fast, you may opt to go for racing slicks, in which case you also need to buy a generator, fuel, and tire warmers to get those slicks up to temp before you go out.
Then, once you start hitting the threshold of your stock bike (in terms of handling), you begin to consider modifications. At first, you’ll just pay a guy to set up your stock suspension for you, but after a while, the stock suspension just won’t do. You’ll maybe get your forks/shock resprung and/or revalved. Maybe you get aftermarket forks/shock. Then you’ll want more responsive brakes, so you upgrade to steel-braided brake lines and more aggressive brake pads.
So yes. A track hobby can get VERY expensive. It can also be an affordable off-and-on thing that you do with your bone-stock bike at a leisurely pace (you can still learn a ton that way), but you’d be surprised at how people, even those strapped for cash, seem to get sucked in. I met a new guy at the track a few times last year, and after two track days, he decided to race in the novice class (like Megaspaz) this year.
Oh and speaking of racing and Megaspaz, he’s still around, just not on BBM apparently. He’s racing novice in California this year, and should have an interesting time. Racing is everything I said about track days, but all of those expensive things are almost required. You need to be able to compete with your peers, both in terms of handling and performance. You’d be amazed at how much money goes into even a top-level CLUB racer’s bike. The guy who set the last track record at Pacific Raceways is looking to SELL one of his racebikes for $15,000, and if he gets a buyer, he’ll be selling at nearly a $25,000 loss. (For those of you that don’t know what I mean, think of it this way. At the top, there’s MotoGP and World Superbike. Below that is national-level competition: AMA Superbike in the US, British Superbike, Australian Superbike, etc.. Below THAT is local club-level racing. These guys are ENTIRELY self-funded. They are usually the team driver, the team mechanic, the team manager, and the racer, all at the same time!)
So do I plan to race? Heh. Don’t think so. If I win the lottery? Maybe. But the truth is, most people never PLANNED to race, just as they didn’t PLAN to pick up a track addiction, just as they didn’t PLAN to pick up a motorcycle addiction. It all just happens. So we’ll see
eternal05
Participant…and I have to say, the DR-Z is just about the most fun I’ve had riding on the street. Like the Ninja 250R, you can really ring its neck, bang through the gears, and throw the bike around without risking anything…’cause you’re only going 25mph. But it’s lighter than all the other bikes (aside from a few MX bikes and a lighter KTM I once got to ride), and it just has a rawness to it that I find really appealing.
I love my gixxer, but it’s just boring around town. It really is. And uncomfortable too. Honestly, I can’t have the same fun in the twisties on the GSX-R because it wants to go faster than I’m comfortable with…not because of my riding skills, but because it would be unsafe for the road. The last couple of rides I went on before the bike lost its lights (and its street-legality) were just frustrating.
The DR-Z, on the other hand, makes coming home from work fun. Just going around a traffic circle at 15mph instead of 5mph makes life interesting. At stop lights, people look at you like you’re riding a three-legged hippo, but when you let the clutch out in first gear, you’re at 30mph by the time they’ve reacted to the green. I can run eight-foot circles without trying at all, and I’ve never come close to losing control over bike, despite the fact that it suckers me into trying the most ridiculous maneuvers. Honestly, it’s the only bike I’ve ridden that I can have serious fun with (i.e., not feel like I’m missing out by not being on a closed course) and stay legal. It just begs you to play.
eternal05
ParticipantWhat do you mean? Given your symptoms, it could be any number of things ranging from a simple brake pad swap to a total rebuild (or replacement) of your caliper.
eternal05
ParticipantThe body work is on (mostly…one or two more holes to drill), and my god, nobody here is likely to care, but if it wasn’t obvious already Hotbodies products are the SHITTIEST pieces of crap in the industry!. I wanted race bodywork that was CHEAP so that I could worry less about crashing, and because I didn’t care at all about how it looked close up, I went for the cheapest, crappiest bodywork known to man: Hotbodies. The fit is terrible. The finish is terrible. The “ready-to-paint primer” is gone on all the corners, and there are all sorts of blemishes and deep gouges from poor packaging/handling. The fiberglass is lumpy and irregular. But I knew what I was getting myself into, and I stand by my decision. Just a word to the wise: if you want quality, get something else!
Anyway, here is the (unpainted) bodywork on the bike, though chances are pretty good I’m going to use white as a base coat anyway:
Starting to look like it might be a real track bike, ya?
eternal05
ParticipantAt first (read: when I was new and bad) I liked having the friction zone with the lever closer to the grip than to the full-out position. As time went on, especially once I started using shifting techniques where you only slip the clutch a bit, I started moving the engagement point out a bit.
The only thing to be careful about is making sure it’s not too far out that the clutch isn’t always 100% engaged when the lever is released. The same is true about making it too far in though…
eternal05
ParticipantI can’t tell you how much your dealer pays, so I can’t give you an idea of how hard to push. In general, a smart salesman will adjust sale price where possible to retain a customer and make a sale. Honestly, though, I doubt you’re going to get much of a discount on a new 250R. They’re usually in pretty high demand and dealers around here tend to stick to MSRP (or higher).
eternal05
ParticipantDoesn’t matter what she was doing. I was making a joking guess based on her age, but whatever was occupying her attention was doing so completely. She didn’t look up once the entire time I watched her in my mirrors…whatever the reason.
As far as texting goes, I think the reason it gets such a bad rap is because it’s the clear cause of so many reported accidents. I’ve been on a college campus for the past two years, and another four years some time before that, and every student that drives through that campus has their phone out. There are facebook groups dedicated to “txting n drvng,” weekly articles in the paper about some dumbass plowing into another person’s car while texting, etc. Not that anybody seems to care, but it’s illegal to hold a phone while driving in WA…you need a hands free set (which, as we all know, doesn’t solve the problem). So yeah, people do their make-up, eat their breakfast omelets, shave, tie their ties, fiddle with their GPS systems, etc. while in their cars, and all of those are just as bad. But texting has caused a slew of high-profile accidents, and that’s getting people’s attention.
eternal05
ParticipantI’m the one that called the police. The woman she hit didn’t seem to have dealt with an accident before and she wasn’t going to call the cops. There was no way I was going to let insurance companies mess this one up, so I called the cops and made sure everybody’s statement (including mine) was taken, and that a police report with a correct account of events was filed then and there.
Might sound harsh, but my very first day driving alone I was side-swiped by a drunk truck driver (pickup, not big rig). He gave me a fake ID and a bogus insurance policy number. When I tried to get things taken care of with my insurance company, it turned out that he was full of it. The license plate on his car was out of date, and there was no record of anybody with his name/info. A $2,500 hole in the side of my parents’ car is one helluva way to learn a lesson, but you can be sure I learned it!
eternal05
ParticipantI was working a job I hated and, like you, zipping around the streets of downtown Seattle on my 250. Especially considering that towards the end of that summer, I started getting a bit lazy about wearing adequate leg protection (jeans were just so much better in 107 degree weather than hot black overpants), it’s pretty lame how complacent I got. In some ways I’m lucky to have made it through without incident. Luckily, I hate life less now (in case it’s not obvious, that last bit should be served with a healthy dose of facetiousness) and I’m back to being careful…mostly
eternal05
ParticipantGive me a sec…I know my housemate left a bottle of cask-strength Scotch around here somewhere…
eternal05
ParticipantHonestly, the disc locks and alarms are only a deterrent to less-than-expert thieves. If you want to see your bike again, a LoJack-style solution is the best bet. Depending on your provider, it may also lower your insurance.
eternal05
Participant‘Nuff said.
eternal05
ParticipantDude,
Where are the pictures? What’s the 4th bike? Common mate — don’t leave us hangin’!
So you had a GS500, an SV650 (naked/F/SF?), and a YZF-600R already, right?
eternal05
ParticipantLike you, Eon, I’m both a tech guy and an avid musician. Losing use of a hand or some fingers would ruin me.
Hand injuries are very common, and I’m totally on board with WeaponZero on this one. Every racer out there has a broken pinky finger (easily avoided by a joined ring/pinky glove…though some people don’t like the feel of that) and broken metacarpals (knuckle/palm armor). That’s why these days they build gloves like this:
To be fair, I’m not sure if you’re less likely to injure these parts if you’re on the street (as opposed to the track), but I don’t know of any hard statistics that suggest they should be different.
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