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taken from twowheelforum.com

“Y’all are nuts… The F4i is not a starter bike…Mine puts 100 HP at the rear wheel, does sub 12 second 1/4 miles and will run 140+ MPH…”

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Check as many agencies as you can. For my bike it was the difference between $1400 and $430 a year between companies. You have to find which one of the insurance companies you fall into their sweet spot. For me it was state farm.

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For some folks… For me, it was the only thing big enough for me to ride!!!

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Riding isn’t for everyone. Some people don’t enjoy the experience or riding a motorcycle, and others simply lack the coordination and balance required to do so safely. So before you dive in head first, take a class and make sure.

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I know the XJ6-Diversion is just a naked Fz6R with a banana seat and ABS, same specs.

Also don’t forget the Yami Tw200. Great beginner bike that lots of people will jump on durring the BRC

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go read
https://www.bestbeginnermotorcycles.com/forum/forum/2440/600cc-brightline

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So how do we compile a list of bikes with a low power to weight ratio?

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Everyone knows black is the fastest!!!!!

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After rereading you post (especially the fact that you are planning 2 years from now) I wanted to add one last thing.

Before you go out and buy anything, get yourself signed up for a MSF course. Firstly for saftey’s sake, but more so to make sure riding is for you. It’s great fun, but it really isn’t for everyone. I remember seeing a figure before my MSF course that something like only 70% of people pass. More over, I hate seeing good people waste money buying a bike and all the gear (and in your case possibly the added expense if modifying it) only to realize shortly after that their romance with riding has gone bust, and they no longer want to do it.

So my advice, before you worry about what bike you are gonna ride, go out and learn to ride safely, and make sure it’s for you.

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With short legs, and a smaller frame, you might get away with a Ninja 250, but that may be as far as you can go on sport bikes.

Sport bikes generally have a much higher seat than their fellow cruisers or standards, which means you will probably never be able to flat foot a sport bike (AKA sit on the bike and be able to rest both feet flat on the ground, not on your tip-toes). This could make it really easy for you to drop a bike at a stop, not something anyone wants to do.

Keep your mind open and sit on a bunch of different bikes. It’s important that when you are just getting started to have a bike that really fits you. There are always little things you can do to help a bike fit you better, but changing the geometry of a bike is not something I would recommend for someone brand new to riding.

I would recommend in addition to the Ninja 250, check out a Honda Nighthawk 250 (it’s a standard, not a cruiser) and maybe even a Buell Blast (kinda a sport/standard) as those are pretty small (and yes they are a 500cc, but they are a single cylinder with low output, and are very tame beginner bikes)

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Awesome post man. Exactly what I have been yammering on about, just more coherent!

Although I just might have a point of contention about no inline 4’s…

This brings up another good topic that there really is a gray area into where some bikes fall as either beginner/intermediate bikes (and thus generating 3/4 of the posts on this site).

I’m sure with some searching, someone could, or already has put out a listing of bikes that are commonly agreed upon beginner and intermediate level bikes. There is a review here and there on this site for a specific bike, but I have yet to see a listing of a “top ten” for getting started (both classic and new models) and also a top ten for an intermediate or first ‘moving off a 250’ bike. Could be really helpful to the users new to this site

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Pros:
-Equal Distance to Both NYC and Boston (in the middle of the greastest sports rivalry of all time, GO SOX)
-Lots of well maintained rural roads with 55mph speed limits. Makes for a ton of fun rides where you may not see a single cager.
-Not too far from Laconia or Americade
-Easy to find seldom traveled roads while learning
-A very friendly 2-wheeled population

Cons:
– Weather: Don’t expect it to stay constant for more than 5 mins.

– Highways, they were designed by crazy people. If you stay in one lane too long, you just accidentally got on another highway. All highways seem to converge in a 100′ span right in the center of Hartford.

– Stupid bikers (SQUIDS) – on any nice day, there are a bunch of inner city kids racing down the only straight stretch of 84 east coming out of Hartford. They only cultivate 2 skills, cutting people off, and doing wheelies at 100mph, with no gear on. They don’t work on their cornering skills so they cause quite a few accidents.

– Lots of trees, they block everyones views, especially at intersections. Also CT loves to stagger intersections so they don’t line up.

– Cell Phones: no one can seem to be bothered with getting a headset or waiting till they get home to call people, rather than driving and not paying any attention.

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Unfortunatly, the only 250cc sport styled bike in the US worth buying is a Ninja. Do yourself a favor, find an 08 Ninja 250 for cheep, ride it for a year or 2, and then sell it for damn neer what you payed for it. After that there are a ton of bikes to look at and you’ll have the skills built up to really be able to ride them.

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Here in CT they just hand you your completion certificate right after you pass your riding test. You can take it and drive right over to the DMV and get your endorsement on your license (given that you have taken the written already for your permit)

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Not entirely sure what a brightline is…

Anywho, if you read far enough down on the “Why 600cc’s is too Much” guide, there is some spirited debate in the comments below it. Maybe you would just like to add your own comments to there. Maybe some of the moderators would like to add a new guide or revise their existing guide to give some more pointers.

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