[Amoryl]

I’m seriously considering the GV250 for my first bike as well, it’s neck and neck that or the V-Star 250 both have their pluses and negatives.

hey smoke, what kind of milage are you getting with yours? I’ve heard reports that it’s around 40-50ish, which is what an average 650’ll get…and that just seems really crappy. but then the site I saw that in was also giving really low averages for all the 250’s they were testing.

[Amoryl]

glad to hear it was pretty painless for ya. don’t let yourself get into the mindset that “It had to/has to happen” though, accept that it might, and be ever vigilant, but don’t let yourself stress out thinking that it absolutely will happen again. that kind of mentality can be very self fulfilling. just don’t forget the lesson learned, glad you got right back on the bike, this time….keep the rubber side down

[Amoryl]

I got on the tollway north of chicago going southbound yesterday…it took almost an hour and a half to go 3 miles. I can’t imagine a 250cc not being able to keep up with that

just because many people want to go 15/20/30mph over the speed limit on the highway doesn’t mean that you cannot take a bike that’ll only go 10mph or so over the speed limit on the highway, IMO. I drive a big ugly slow cargo van, and if i’m over the speed limit it’s only by 3 or 4mph. I stay in the right lane, or the middle lane, go my own speed, and people pass me if they want to go faster (ok, I get passed a lot) and I get where I need to be when I need to be there.

honestly I get annoyed at all the people who use other people’s speeding habits to explain why a 250/500/650….whatever bike can’t go on the highway or cross the country. some dude rode across the Himalayas on an overloaded indian made 250 bike. sure the thing broke down like 4 times the first day, and he was practically crawling up parts of the mountain. but he made it. I’ve heard arguments that that wouldn’t work here because people drive down the highway at 70+ all the time….but you know what? all the other people on those roads that guy was riding were going much much faster than he was too, maybe not in the upper 70’s but compared to the speeds he was pulling it was like lightning. the big difference? he didn’t care. he didn’t care that he was going on average 1/3 the speed of the rest of the traffic, he didn’t care that his bike couldn’t break landspeed records or destroy speed limits. it was the journey that mattered. if you want to you can take any bike that can safely handle the MINIMUM speed requirement (usually 40-45mph) on the highway. it may take you twice as long than it would at 80, but if that doesn’t bother you, then go for it.

I have this crazy desire, and I really really want to do it, to take a big cross or partially cross country ride on my 250 after I’ve “outgrown it” before I move up to a larger bike. just to prove a point. I know even now that it’ll likely be much MUCH less comfortable than on a bigger bike, I’ll be more saddle sore, the ride’ll be slower, rougher, and the fatigue greater than with a bigger bike, but it CAN be done, and that in and of itself is enough for me

I hope

[Amoryl]

heh, good choice

in my oppinion, if you’ve gotta ask a question “is this too….” it usually is. go with the gut even if it’s wrong, it’s not from lack of trying

[Amoryl]

personally I think it’ll do a great job of showing off your belly button piercing, the jacket’s not too short, the shirt’s too long

[Amoryl]

what about the light bikes that made them feel harder to control? did you feel like you were just going to wrench it out of line?

seems to me the biggest issue you had was more with the style rather than the size, and perhaps the maintinence of the class bikes.

[Amoryl]

this isn’t a motorcycle and as such has absolutely no business being mentioned here on BBM

these things look pretty sweet. there’s several in the neighborhood, and I’m reasonably sure it’s not just the same one or two over and over. the videos I’ve seen shows these guys can REALLY get moving. and when they turn there’s a fair amount of lean (though obviously not as much as you’d get on a true motorcycle) which shows it handles closer to a motorcycle than your average cage. as far as ski-dos or snowmobiles…I don’t have any experience with them so I wouldn’t know. I DO know they look like a hell of a lot of fun!

[Amoryl]

ahhh the ol KISS rule. I think thats what was being argued here, we newbs need it simple, and all the graphs and the percentages get confusing to someone who hasn’t gotten it quite to natural yet. clearly what Munch was saying was a simple explanation, while perhaps not the most 100% accurate is better than the explanation thats absolutely 100% accurate, but so confusing to the newbie that he won’t get even a little of the understanding out of it. which is why many trainers have to dumb it down a bit. the goal being to get as close as possible to the correct answer in such a way that the newb will perform the action as close to correct as possible, rather than explain with exactitude but in a way that the newb would do the complete wrong action while attempting to make sense of what is to him, still senseless.

i made the mistake once of telling someone I was teaching to drive stick that technically you CAN start from third. I said this mostly to assuage their fear that they’ll accidentally put it in third not first and blow up my jeep. this was a mistake however as the first chance they got they intentionally started in third, spun the tires and hopped the damn thing. people have the amazing ability to hear only the first half of what you say and go with it. so I suppose the point was that while what was being said was technically correct, it was perhaps not the most correct way to put it for the new crowd.

[Amoryl]

it rained a lot one day (not certain this is related at all) and all of a sudden, the speakers stopped working in my work van. for like 3 or 4 days I’d either get no speaker sound at all, or it’d work but wouldn’t work the moment I turned the van off and back on…then..on like the 5th or so day…it just suddenly worked again, every time. no problems. I don’t know if it was caused by rain, or just some random weird coincidence, but strange things happen sometimes….

[Amoryl]

you want loud, get that airhorn attatchment elwood posted about a bit ago. personally I can’t stand really loud pipes, it makes everyone angry, it makes cages violent, and it makes neighbors talk crap about you to everyone (including me, your mild mannered drain technician who’s never even been on your block before, but thanks for telling me what an A-Hole your neighbor is at 5am warming his harley up and making your windows rattle. now normal pipe noise, the throaty purr of the japanese cruisers, the rumbling potato potato of a harley owned by a non-jerk, is a nice sound, makes you feel good, turns heads….but the loud pipes that are usually equated with “loud pipes save lives” are, to me, similer to those caddies with rims and all the subwoofer crap crammed in that makes your change in your change cup start flipping when that caddie gets about 6 car lengths away from you….

I don’t talk in movies, I don’t yell obscenities around young children, it’s basic civility, and one I will extend to other riders as well by not making my pipes arseholishly loud.

[Amoryl]

How’s the gas milage? I’ve read that cruiser comparison before, honestly had overlooked the hyosung, but I’d noticed that what they claimed the “average range” when divided by the tank capacity puts mileage on all of them really low. based on the tank size and it’s claimed range they’re saying the GV250 gets about the same MPG as a V-Star 650, about 48mpg. I’ve heard lots of people, even on here, put the V-star 250 at 70+ which I guess isn’t far off from the 75-80 that people are claiming as average….

the MPG could be a deal breaker for me…thats a huge hit in average MPG vs other 250’s if it’s true.

[Amoryl]

BARF! thats great! almost as funny as seattle’s South Lake Union Transit Take a ride on it!

[Amoryl]

so how friendly would these group rides of yours be for a chubby guy on a V-Star or hyosung 250? neither will have quite the zip that the ninja 250’s would have, but I plan to go at least a year before succumbing to the lure of a bigger bike (heh, so I hope)

[Amoryl]

ahhh, ok. had no idea why i thought maybe Scion was Korean…it wasn’t based on anything even remotely like evidence

I too am interested in knowing how hyosung’s hold up, they’re a nice looking bike

[Amoryl]

sadly my job requires a cargo van so I’ll never really be able to switch to a bike. but still, my jeep gets around 17ish highway so it’d take a LOT of maintenance on the 250 I plan on getting (estimated 70+mpg) before it’s “as expensive” course I can’t connect a trailer that’ll haul a ton to the back of a V-Star 250 and even with saddlebags I doubt it’ll be too useful for a big grocery run…fortunately the GF understands that the saving on gas is an excuse rather than reality

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