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When will my “scare” happen? (long post)
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October 20, 2008 at 11:41 pm #14092megaspazParticipant
If the only way you can get an adrenaline rush is from getting the shit scared out of you, you’re doing it wrong.
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If there’s anything more important than my ego
around, I want it caught and shot now…October 20, 2008 at 11:52 pm #14094MunchParticipantThe 250’s everyone refers to or even under 500cc’s as a beginner bike really leans more towards the sport bike “types”. They are geared differently then cruisers. Having the 750 cruiser is not anywhere close to the 750 sport bike. Like comparing a Buick to a Miata.
I have the Vulcan 500… I can get it to 90+ easily and for a cruiser she is nimble. I ride 45 mins every day to work and again back…90% at 75+mph. If you let yourself you can get overly comfortable. When I feel I am getting that way I start looking at the vehicles around me. … now heres where my profession and your hobby kicks in. Assuming you are aware for mechanics of cars you will know what I mean when I say that at any point an axle nut can come loose…. lets give the for Focus as example… 1 nut per hub in the rear at about 70 ft lbs holding the nut….. stretch the threads from one too many brake checks and a good pothole…BAM!…. shes in your lane. Do you have kids? Ever try to get out of the lazy boy quick enough to go after one of them when they sassed ya? Not to quick was it? Same thing on the bike… yea you may have the handling down… the dynamics and all down. Some of the scare moments aren’t in the skill or the hobby…. just the mere idea that at a moments notice something can happen and a split second of indecision can end it quickly.
Deer, poor maintained vehicle, pot holes, flat tire on your bike, sudden engine choke out. The danger is not in what you do know its what you don’t know. That empty curve can be quickly taken up by a random dog or similar animal. That acceleration point could start at a time where theres loose sand in the road.
I see the racer types all the time in my shop..everywhere from the “Fast and Furious” wannabe’s to the seasoned ones that don’t talk about it but hand you specs to set the alignment to. The vets will be the first to tell you that at any time you are pushing the limit of the vehicle you operate…. you ceased operating it safely. I also know that as we all type some of these things you are on the defensive and likely ( not saying difinitvely that you are) to be on a slight defensive stance and are thinking of more way to defend your PoV rather then understanding others.Heck I will put a personal experience to light…. I used to drive a Nissan P/U….. I had a Z3 try and out run me to the end of an on ramp just so he could stay that 7 feet closer to his destination….. after he lost the race ( I am experienced myself :^P) The driver kept trying to hassel me with speeding up to my tailgate …riding it then backing off….. problem was..he developed a pattern. After I had enough , I figure when he hit the throttle …I would brake check him…. an hour later test driving a customers car there was a tow truck getting that very Z3 out of the ditch.
I know I know….but he wasn’t safe and you are and you wouldn’t ever do that…. not my point. My point is that the driver didn’t know ME. Or the fact that I am crazy enough to check him up without notice.Yesterday is a memory, tomorrow is a prediction, but today…… is a Bi**h
October 21, 2008 at 1:00 pm #14117PhilParticipantdcJohn – Thanks for the reality check! You are 100% right ! Your reference to the car helped me understand! True I can mess with the gears in a turn if I am no where near the limit … but if i hit anything unexpected then I am done since now it is too late to engage the engine….
Rab – if you dont see the point of my post then I am sorry … Let me make it very clear: I state my case, views, and questions to get help from more experienced riders. I am an engineer and it is my nature to want to understand why things are as they are. I am looking for advice from people that will be patient with me and tell me WHY I shouldn’t do certain things and discuss them with me.
bob250 – I think you nailed it.
megaspaz – Hmmm .. what are you saying? I get an adrenalin rush going 160+ mph on the German speed limit free highway. I get a rush dodging trees and mougles on my snowboard on double black diamond runs. Cruising around safely does not really do the adrenalin for me and I think thats a good thing.
munch – I really like the lazyboy analogy, thank you for that.
What I take from all of your comments is that riding a motorcycle is not the #1 way to commit unintentional suicide (I should have remembered that more people get hurt horseback riding then motorcycling).
I need to start adding the common sense into situation once I am experienced enough to have the rider’s common sense. Till then, Beginner Phil will need to stick by the rules and learn a little bit more about them, one day at a time.Thanks for everyone’s input
October 21, 2008 at 2:18 pm #14124megaspazParticipantmegaspaz – Hmmm .. what are you saying? I get an adrenalin rush going 160+ mph on the German speed limit free highway. I get a rush dodging trees and mougles on my snowboard on double black diamond runs. Cruising around safely does not really do the adrenalin for me and I think thats a good thing.
what do you think i’m saying? and what do you think cruising around safely means? think about it and let me know what you come up with.
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around, I want it caught and shot now…October 21, 2008 at 2:29 pm #14126PhilParticipantok … im not sure what to make out of this or your last post
Its not criticism (I think) nor is it help, or answers to my confusion. So I suppose you are either making a joke (which I dont get, english as a second language that happens sometimes) or you are just one of those people that like to put a random stab into someone that you do not approve of.
October 21, 2008 at 2:49 pm #14129megaspazParticipantit is actually neither. i’m just trying to get you to think about the things you’re saying more. While i do tend to joke quite a bit, that wasn’t my intention there.
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If there’s anything more important than my ego
around, I want it caught and shot now…October 21, 2008 at 2:57 pm #14131PhilParticipantIn that case I appreciate your intention Thanks
(love your Ducati btw)October 21, 2008 at 5:50 pm #14139DeD FredParticipantIf your not on your toes and have both eyes open every time you ride.
You are a deadman riding.
Soccer mom never looks, she is do busy with the screaming kids, Deisel dan has to make the next load, and he is late.
What ever can be, is in the road in front of you.
I hit a 4×4 and road sign that bounced out of the back of a state road crew truck 3 months ago, going 75 and at night.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
October 21, 2008 at 7:36 pm #14153bob250ParticipantI wonder what words came spewing from your mouth after that little snafu?
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