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eon
ParticipantIf I was in your situation I would go for visible deterrents (like the big chain and concrete pillar). I believe there are chains out there that are supposedly *really* hard to cut through. Not sure how effective they are but I’m all for visible deterrents. Then I would have some type of motion alarm. You can get ones that send you a text message when they go off.
But what’s this nonsense about not riding in the rain? (I’m in Seattle)
eon
ParticipantI will throw another observation onto the pile here
The armor is only going to do any good if you wear it. Putting on armor would get tedious very quickly, I would think. Don’t under estimate how much a pain in the ass that can be and how much the temptation would be to skimp on it “just this time”. I think a good jacket and pants would be a better fit for the riding you plan on doing.eon
ParticipantShit, sorry to hear about this Budd. Like the others I am glad you managed to walk away with only minor injuries. It really sucks that the guy did not stop, that would piss me off more than anything I think.
Thanks for posting about this. I think it helps the rest of us to remember to keep up our guard (and if the wife rides a scooter she can hardly complain about you getting another bike when the finances allow!)
eon
ParticipantI got a pair of the Tourmaster Response boots and those things are more comfortable than my Timberlands. They would be passable to wear in an office in most situations (maybe not if you meet the public).
There are plenty of boots available now that could meet your needs. I recommend reading through as many reviews in webbikeworld that you can.
eon
ParticipantI am a beginner “surviving” with only a bike. As others have said climate plays a big factor. It sounds like there will be few days where that will stop you from riding in AZ but don’t discount it. When it is a 100′ outside and you have to go somewhere and look presentable how are you going to do that on a bike? Also, every time you go out will be into that kind of heat. That will become a real pain in the ass pretty quickly I’m thinking (living in Seattle I have the opposite problem. Rain does not stop me riding but sometimes it just it just sucks).
Since you are at college I will mention alcohol and parties. I would not ride my bike to any party. You may avoid the temptation to have a beer but others probably wont. I avoid riding Friday/Saturday nights as those are the nights most ‘accidents’ happen.
Apart from that, Amazon.com is your friend. I order most large items from there. I have a top box to get groceries but that store also does deliveries if I feel the need to do a large order. I also use zipcar.com if I ever have the need for 4 wheels for a short time. I believe Home Depot rents out trucks by the hour too.
eon
ParticipantI saw this on some crappy bike show on tv the other day. Got me kind of mad in the current climate (auto companies asking for billions in tax payer money). What the hell is a car company doing dicking around with shit like this? Why don’t they pay their designers to design cars that people want to buy?
December 16, 2008 at 6:17 pm in reply to: Ontario Bill C-117: No child passengers on motorcycles #15290eon
ParticipantThe point of the picture was to show we need some laws to protect children, but at what point do we draw the line? You seem happy with the current law but I am sure there are people out there who regard it as an infringement of their rights. If you were trying to draft the peg law just now, how would you justify it? Would you find any better statistics than those being used for this law?
December 15, 2008 at 11:30 pm in reply to: Ontario Bill C-117: No child passengers on motorcycles #15284eon
ParticipantHmmm…not sure I agree with this law but let me play devil’s advocate (because I like a good argument
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Look at the following picture and tell me if you think this is ok.
That kid is 3 years old and went for a 2 hour ride standing up. Is that “safe and responsible”?Who defines “safe and responsible”? Would you regard an 8 year old (who can reach the pegs) riding pillion wearing a t-shirt and flip flops in a no helmet state as safe and responsible? It might be legal and if as an adult you choose to ride like that then that is your right, but can you honestly say a child is capable of making the same informed choice?
I am wary about blanket laws like this as they all too easily catch up unintended victims, but where do you draw the line?
eon
ParticipantAnd how do you know what the road conditions are around the next corner?
We are talking about the street here, not the track. Shit happens on the street and the faster you are going the harder it gets to avoid it.
eon
ParticipantI am not sure if this is the best site for what you seek then. Most of the people on this site started small (either sport bike or cruiser) with a few folks in the 650 range and even fewer on larger bikes. Almost to a man (and woman) we are all beginners though. I think there are maybe 3 or 4 folks on here with many years and bikes behind them. Most of us will not be able to your questions.
Having said that, if you trawl through the posts I know there were threads that talk about the pros/cons of inline 4 engines, V-twins and single cylinder engines. I know not all 600cc bikes are the same but I cannot tell you what makes one good and one bad.
I can tell you there was some advice I ignored before buying that I ignored that I now know to be true.
Your first bike will not be your last
This is oh so true. I have only had my bike 4 months and I love it but I am still drooling over and planning what my next purchase will be. It’s like a crazy addiction.
Don’t analyze your purchase to death, just do it
Based on the first point, this one makes more sense. If you accept you will be buying multiple bikes then trying to find one bike that fits all your needs becomes irrelevant. Give yourself over to the fact you will be starting an expensive bike habiteon
ParticipantBy locking the wheel you increased your stopping distance. The shortest way to stop is to brake just up to the point you lose traction (which is what ABS systems are designed to do).
eon
ParticipantGlad you survived your incidents without any damage to yourself or the bike, and I’m glad you are now getting serious about your gear. I guess I will be the first to state the obvious, you need to practice your emergency stops. That limo may have cut you off but you were the one who almost lost control of the bike. If you hadn’t hit the rear brake too hard would this incident been anything other than an annoyance?
Don’t mean to dump on you, I appreciate you posting your experiences on here. We can all learn from situations like this. Speaking of which, I think I will go practice my braking. Something I don’t really do enough of.
eon
ParticipantHate to break it to ya but I don’t think there is anything you can say that will make a difference. Even at 40 years old i did not want to tell my mother
Riding bikes is a risky business. Telling her that sky diving is more dangerous will not likely help. At this point it seems like you will just have to wait, which is not necessarily a bid thing. I know that myself and some of the others on this forum have the opinion that if we had started riding when young then we probably would not be here today. Learning the rules of the road behind a steel cage does have its advantages. There will come a time when your mother will just have to live with your choices but at 17, that might not be just yet.
Have you considered getting into off road riding? That looks like a lot of fun and it would certainly build your riding skills. Come the day when you hit the streets (which is the dangerous part) you can concentrate on the road and not the bike.
eon
ParticipantEvergreen Safety Council holds the MSF ERC course over the winter months down in Renton (but they call it the Intermediate Rider Course). This course might be perfect for you. I haven’t taken it yet so I cannot comment on what level it is. WebBikeWorld complained this MSF class was like a compressed Basic class so that might be exactly what you are looking for? The next class is January 19th.
I’m pretty sure there is a track place nearby that teaches you how to handle your bike (not how to race). Cannot remember the name of it off hand. Don’t know if they do any courses over the winter months though. Once I get a bit more experience myself I plan on taking that course. Only got a few thousand miles under my belt just now.
eon
ParticipantHey, welcome to the board from another Vespa rider in the Pacific Northwet from the UK (although since I am from Scotland Seattle does not seem that wet).
How was it adjusting to braking with your foot instead of your left hand? I think that is what I will struggle with when I finally get a real bike.
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