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May 11, 2009 at 10:18 pm #18353ryan207Participant
Ok, thanks, I’ll follow exactly what you said. This guy is the man, and definatly knows what he is talking about. Everyone else’s comments are stupid and pointless. Thanks dude, someone who finally understands my ideas, and who did not waste their time by posting this comment.
The ninja 500 is the best looking bike ever, and definatly something for me.
My plans are not concrete, they were just ideas that I wanted to bounce off of you guys. Wow, I just got ripped a new asshole.
May 11, 2009 at 10:43 pm #18354EliasParticipantDude, half of us can’t even tell what you really want, or if you’re joking. Yeah, you have your questions all nicely numbered, but do you even think before asking them? You come to a forum that is all about promoting safe and user-friendly experiences for new motorcyclists, and then ask when you should start popping wheelies? How are we supposed to take that seriously? How did you expect us to react? Of course we’re going to poke fun at you, you’re asking for it because you’re trolling.
Personally, I am glad my rents didn’t allow me to get a bike for as long as they did. If I got one when I was your age, I imagine I would be out of the sport by now for one reason or another. I mean, all the street smarts I’ve gained by simply driving a cage for so many years would have translated much differently on a bike in similar situations. But right now, that’s not going to sway you one way or another. You’re dead set on getting a bike and that’s that, isn’t it? Get a 250, and do everyone a favor and don’t trade up until you’re out of college (if you make it that far). You will learn SO much in that time. There’s no rush. And if you think there is, then you should seriously reconsider this entire decision for the safety of everyone around you. Oh, and there’s NO good time to start doing wheelies or endos. Respectable riders will judge you on how well you can keep your wheels ON the road, not off it.
TAKE.IT.SLOW.
That is all
May 12, 2009 at 1:33 am #18358eonParticipantOk, I’m sorry but I could not resist. Where I come from sarcasm is used to keep people grounded and it looks like you needed a reality check. I have no problem with you wanting to do stunts but when you throw in the lusting after the squid machine, plans to be stunting after 3 months, still lives with parents, yada yada, then it you need to get your feet back on the ground. Riding and staying alive is harder than it looks. I am sure you are reading gixxer and stunt sites and you want to be one of those guys. That’s fine. But do yourself a favor and read up on the dangers on riding a bike as well.
As far as the ride from NJ to FL, it is certainly possible to do but I’m not sure I would recommend it do a newer rider. Riding on the interstates is not fun and sports bikes are not the most comfortable things around, and that is a long way. I’m not sure where the trip fits in your timeline but if you are really ready to move up from a 250 then perhaps sell the 250 in NJ and get your next bike in FL?
May 12, 2009 at 2:00 am #18359SantaCruzRiderParticipantI think it should apply equally to stunts. You should probably not do any wheelies or stoppies until at least 30 minutes after eating. A full stomach could dramatically increase the mess of a big crash, plus many people puke when doctors push meds, so it’s safer to have an empty belly.
May 12, 2009 at 3:10 pm #18380bigguybbrParticipantIf you are gonna do wheelies and stoppies make sure you are wearing a good quality tank top and your finest flip flops. Also If you are going to ride from NJ to FL try and do it only on one wheel so you only use half the gas.
Good idea – Buying a low displacement bike to learn on.
Bad idea – Thinking you should trade up to a super sport after 3 months. You’re still beginning at that point.
Good idea – Practicing basic skills, awareness, and evasive maneuvers such as quick stops and swerving.
Bad idea – Practicing wheelies and stoppies, especially after only 2 months on a bike. Working on having road worthy skills. Tricks and stunts don’t belong on the road for the saftey of everyone.
Before you even think of doing anything fancy on a bike, make sure your skills are upto par first. Sign yourself up for the MSF Beginning Riders Course and get some sound instruction. If you want to polish up your skills further, sign up for the intermediate (after 500-1000 miles of riding) and then the expert riding course (figure about a season after that). After you have some time, skill development, and sound instruction under your belt, then think about that 650, and about taking some of the California Superbike School courses and really learn to ride that motorcycle.
And if you are wondering about why you are getting razzed so badly, you posted on a forum that is focused on motorcycle saftey about stunting and riding a superbike while inexperienced.
May 12, 2009 at 11:25 pm #18418ryan207ParticipantIt was such a stupid idea to post on this forum because you guys are saftey freaks (I’m not saying this because you told me not to do wheelies and stoppies after 2 months, I commend you for that). It’s because you guys think that a beginner/novice bike (aka ninja 650) is way to powerful for someone who had has 3 months of riding expierence. If it can be ridden successfully by a beginner, than I am a advanced beginner after 3 months of riding. So, that overqualifies me for the bike. You guys suck… This is not a good forum for beginner riders because it is full of saftey freaks.
May 12, 2009 at 11:58 pm #18419davidmdahlParticipantAlthough I did not respond to the original post, I would have to stand with the ‘safety freaks’. My wife and daughter are counting on me to take care of myself and not do anything stupid on my ride. Now that the weather is good, I read about motorcycle fatalities nearly every week, and I am tired of it. Not only do I hate to hear of someone’s misfortune, but it reminds me of my own exposure to disaster. My wife does not follow the news as closely, fortunately.
You, ryan207, are in a position to make your own decisions. If the virtual head-slaps on this thread did not get your attention, then I do not know what more can be done. There are lots of ways to live well, and lots of ways to die. I hope that you survive long enough to become one of us old fuddy-duddy safety freaks.
Best wishes,
David
May 13, 2009 at 12:00 am #18420Zig308ParticipantI’d suggest getting a Goldwing for the long drive comfort, then putting a roll cage on it. Once you hit a year, then try the wheelies and stoppies on the Goldwing since you’ll have the roll cage to prevent certain death.
May 13, 2009 at 12:18 am #18421EliasParticipantStart over.
First, this is a great forum for beginners. Myself, as well as countless other beginner riders have gotten sound advice from skilled riders, as well as fellow novice riders here, that will potentially save our lives. Even in our argument here, you have learned something- don’t do stunts as a beginner. Second, your definition of “safety freak” is what translates to “survival freak” on the streets. So call us safety freaks, call us whatever you want, we don’t mind being labeled SAFE MOTORCYCLISTS. Which, I might add, is the exact opposite genre of freak that you are. You, my confused young collegiate friend, are a “speed freak.” And as much as that might be tolerated by your poor reasons for being one, it isn’t tolerated here. We will be more than glad to give you useful and sane advice, if you will commit to being a sane and safe rider (which requires not trixing on the streets, taking learning seriously and SLOW). There is a debate as to whether the 650R (as well as SV650) is a good beginner bike, and there are plenty of threads that discuss it, including one I created here on BBM. The 650R is generally accepted as a beginner bike because it is down-tuned for a beginner and it’s a P-Twin, making it more torque-oriented as opposed to HP focused. Would this make the 650R a good bike after 3 months? IT DEPENDS ON THE RIDER, and since you mentioned wheelies and stoppies, we recommended the slowest path to race-tuned bikes as possible. But, a 650R would be a much better choice than a GIXER for any beginner.
So, Ryan, if you want to do some good research here with BBM, you’re going to have to knock off the cool college squid attitude. Otherwise, there are hundreds of forums out there that will be more than glad to support your raging GIXER interstate stunt galloping. They, are what set us “safety freaks” apart.
May 13, 2009 at 2:42 am #18424briderdtParticipantYou’re not the first person to tell me that. I hear it from my 12-year-old step-daughter all the time. Especially when I tell her to not do something (that is mostly destructive). And I will continue to suck, well into old age.
So you’ve gotten sound advice. It’s up to you as to whether you take it.
As for me, it’s all 1’s and 0’s…
May 13, 2009 at 3:12 am #18427bigguybbrParticipantYou haven’t even begun riding yet and have already assumed you will be advanced. Not a good start…
May 13, 2009 at 12:28 pm #18436CandiceParticipantThis site has been very valuable to me as a beginner rider. Go to your MSF class, they are “safety freaks” as well. It’s cooler to be a safety freak than DEAD. Obviously you are very young in body and mind so you think you are invincible, don’t learn the hard way that you are not. Good luck!
May 13, 2009 at 12:37 pm #18437CandiceParticipantAlso, when you get to college, enroll for Common Sense 101 – PLEASE!
May 13, 2009 at 1:59 pm #18438briderdtParticipantIf you’re going to kill yourself, please get it over with BEFORE you reproduce, so that you’ll (a) stop pi$$ing in the gene pool, and (b) not leave some fatherless children behind.
May 13, 2009 at 3:04 pm #18441CandiceParticipantHave a discussion with your parents, show them this line of discussion we have been having and just see what they have to say. They sound pretty down to earth since they said you can’t ride until you finish a year of college, they are probably hoping this is some kind of “phase” but, probably you will still want to ride, so just relax, don’t get all defensive by our comments, a lot of us have some experience that we are speaking from. One guy just went down this morning, you should read it.
Do you think all of us were not jazzed when we decided we wanted to ride? Hell, I was a total spazoid saying that I was going to get a brand new Triumph and blah, blah, blah, ride to Canada whatever, well, once you research, get your head out of the clouds, and take the class and start riding you realize that riding a motorcycle is dangerous and it’s better to be scared and riding than overconfident and riding, overconfidence kills.
Well maybe not scared exactly but afraid to die, or something, wary, whatever you want to call it.
Take care, have fun in college.
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