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What was your Experience…From day 1.
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March 23, 2009 at 2:31 pm #2630smokeizfireParticipant
I believe our experiences collectively will help a lot of individuals who may want to learn how to ride, and new riders who are starting out. We all ride motorcycles, but the way we began varies. So this is my story……
The bad economy and the need for a 2nd vehicle is what got me into the idea of motorcycling. Gas prices were around $3-4/gallon then. Once I seriously decided this is what I wanted, I started researching, researching…..and more researching. I wanted a Sport bike at 1st, so I went to the Kawasaki dealer looking to sit on a Ninja 250. I went to about 3 different dealers and couldn’t find one to sit on. The salesman at the dealer had me sit on a 650 Ninja, and that’s when I decided that Sports bikes weren’t for me. The seating position was way too aggressive for me….but they still look nice.
I did more research and found my next option….the Cruiser. My research led me to the Kawasaki Vulcan 900 Custom. More research led me to websites letting me know that a 900cc (and above) motorcycle of any sort is too much for beginners. Research is what led me to this site and others that gave me this sort of advice. I learned for the kind of motorcycle I wanted(a cruiser), my experience with motorcycles (0 at the time) lead me down a road of 250-750cc land.
I joined BBM and received great advice, not on specific a motorcycle, but how to go about choosing the right bike for me. Many trips to different dealers had me deciding which bike I didn’t want more than which bike I did. The Rebel was too small, even for me at 5’5″. The V-Star 650 was no where to be found, and the Honda 750 Shadow Aero was a really good candidate in terms of size and feel. I didn’t get the Honda because it was right at the edge of going to the next level and felt that a 750 is probably good for someone with more experience, other than zilch. More research…(at that point it became an obsession)…led me to an article on the Cruiser Magazine website comparing 250’s from different Manufacturers.
In my reading, I saw the Hyosung GV250 and the Kymco Venox 250. Those 2 particular bikes stood out to me because they looked like “real motorcycles”. The Rebel, Virago, and Suzuki…whatever it was called was in the article as well. I was very impressed with what they said about the Hyosung(known as the Alphasport in the article). The Venox infatuation was strictly cosmetic. I did GV250 specific research and could not find anything negative about the bike. I had more problems finding a dealer in my area.
After finding a dealer, I traveled about 25 miles to the dealer and as I pulled up I saw her……she was beautiful! I jumped out of the car and sat on her and that’s when I knew, she was the 1 for me. The dealer tried to sell me the burgundy on black with the saddle-bags and wind screen…no thanks. The orange and black was way more appealing. We worked out the final details of the deal and in about 1 week she was delivered to me.
I knew about the MSF class, however, the long waiting list was aaaa….I’ll say female dog just to keep it G rated. Persistence and good timing is the reason I was able to get in 3 months ahead of schedule. Some one dropped the moment I was scheduling.
Although I never rode a bike before, my experience in driving a manual transmission in a car did help a lot with the “concept” of manual shifting. I used this “concept” to teach myself how to ride before MSF. I started in my long drive way getting myself use to the clutch/friction zone I’ve seen on YouTube Videoes. Once I felt my coordination getting better, I decided it was time for me to head to the DMV for my permit. I failed the 1st day, then aced it the 2nd.
After getting my permit, the next morning I met my brother-in-law in the parking lot. I personally decided the best place to learn was on the black tar. DISCLAIMER(Not saying this is how every one should learn, for I am speaking on me and my experience) I rode just about everyday before my class. By the time class started felt pretty confident about my street riding. I learned pretty fast if I say so myself. Though, I stayed away from the freeway like the plague.
I rode to MSF class which was down the block from where I purchased my bike, avoiding the freeway turning a 20min ride into 1 hour. Class was cool and I still think about my days in class. No drops or spills so far, however, there has been a close call or 2 due to idiot drivers. All of those years of driving helped a lot because I learned that you have to drive for everyone else who is on the road with you, as well as for yourself. Riding a bike is no different. Personally, I think you should drive a few years(like 3-5) before ever attempting to ride a motorcycle.
I do the freeway now and I love it way more than street riding. It seems more easier, however, more dangerous due to the higher rates of speed traveled vs. the streets. Moreover, riding a bike is inherently a dangerous practice…..do I need to say why? I’m sure most can figure that one out. I’ve been riding since August 08 and I still love it as if it was the 1st day….how about you?
March 23, 2009 at 5:09 pm #17275eonParticipantFor me it happened almost by accident. I had just moved to downtown Seattle where my new place only came with one parking space. A 2nd space would cost $200 a month and given that I live and work downtown, we did not really need 2 cars. So after becoming a one car family I quickly discovered that I still needed transportation of my own from time to time. Looking out my window at a line of scooters parked on the street I decided one of them would be perfect (it could fit in front of the wife’s car in our parking space). Once I learned that I needed a motorcycle license anyway then my sights moved onto bikes and the new Ninja 250 became my favorite.
Before doing anything though I was going to take the MSF class. I have older brothers who ride and one of them had head on crash a few years back. Visiting him in the hospital was a sobering experience. He was very very fortunate though in that the only injury he suffered was to his leg, this despite ending up underneath a van.
Sorry for the graphic image but this was what was in my head when I was considering riding. I forced myself to read every crash story I could. If I was going to go ahead with this then I was going to do it with my eyes open. While waiting for my class I bought and read Proficient Motorcycling. I bought myself a white helmet and a bright yellow jacket. I was going to do everything I could to minimize the risks. Looking cool was way down my list of priorities.
After taking and passing the class I set about looking for a bike. Unfortunately the new Ninja was impossible to come by last summer. At that time I noticed this odd 3 wheel scooter sitting at the dealership across the street and everything I read about it gave it rave reviews. I guess I had read one too many threads about someone going down on gravel. The extra wheel on this scooter gives you 50% more grip and was good insurance against exactly that type of problem (if one wheel hits gravel, the other might still be ok). More importantly it was available. So, I took looking cool to a new low as I rode around town with my day-glow jacket, white helmet and 3 wheel scooter
But, I have stayed safe, not dropped and have learned how to ride in the process.Some day soon I will move to the top of the cool ladder when I get myself a BMW dual sport. From that lofty position I can look down my nose at the lessor mortals around me and know that I have arrived
March 23, 2009 at 5:58 pm #17281CandiceParticipantOh yes getting started! My brother got his second bike and my mind just said, that would be fun. So I casually mentioned it to the hubby and surprisingly he said, sure, you can get a bike if you take the MSF course and pass. So I kind of took that as a challenge, I think he might have thought I wouldn’t pass – BUT I DID! So I did tons and tons of research on what kind of bike I wanted. I already knew I probably did not want a sports bike, I had sat on my brother’s Yamaha R6 and didn’t like the lower back breaking feeling of leaning over so far plus I didn’t really need to go that fast anyways. I really, really liked the Triumph Bonneville T-100 for the looks but I decided I didn’t need a $9000.00 brand new 800 cc bike for my first try so I ended up with a Suzuki Savage – USED. I love that thing it is so perfect for me.
Then the first time I rode it to work people kept telling me these horrible stories about accidents and people they know who died on their bikes. I was in such a panic that I was going to die on the way home that I had to find a way to calm down before the end of the work day since I live 30 miles from work so then I did TONS of research on statistical stuff and advice on how to ride the safest and all that ( thank goodness we were slow that day at work). Which actually was a good thing because I then found some tips I really liked about riding in traffic and where to position myself. I also read an article on HOW TO CRASH which I found interesting and like I might have a chance of surviving maybe. yeah. Then I rode my bike home and I was fine.
For my gear, I had already purchased a white helmet and white riding jacket because I had read that I would be more visible in white, although, I don’t really depend on that but if it helps…. Like someone said above, looking cool was a LOW priority! I look cool anyways, doesn’t matter what I wear, ha ha!
My first very short season out (Sept – Nov) I made a few rookie mistakes, learned from them and kept going! I love it!
March 23, 2009 at 6:16 pm #17284japac1ParticipantI’ve been riding for only a couple of weeks. For years I would see the MSF students at the college I drove past and always thought about signing up. Then I moved to Texas (from MD) where there are bikes everywhere. I found the local MSF school and went to their web site a few times a day for perhaps 2 weeks. I was always too nervous to sign up. Finally, I gave in and thought why not try it and if I didn’t like it, I would at least know. So, I took the BRC over 2 days in February. Cold, rainy and a little ill. Otherwise it went fine. I called my wife early on the second day and thought I was going to fail the riding test. I actually did pretty good. So, now I have my BRC certificate and promptly went to get my endorsement.
Now it was time to look for the bike. I read a lot, searched online and decided on a Virago 250. My brother in law kept telling me to get at least a 750cc…something about the torque. I disagreed and am glad I have my small cruiser to train on. But I got ahead of the story. I spent the next several weeks on craigslist and Ebay looking formy Virago. If I found one too far away I was afraid I wouldn’t be able to ride it home. I ultimately found a 2003 Virago with 4000 miles about 2 hours away and the seller trailored it to my house!!
Next, I rode around my small street. I have a circle to practice on. After 2 weekends of doing this and feeling what it feels like to run out of gas and use the fuel knob, I said either go out into the street or sell the bike. So, I rode out into the neighborhood. Had fun. Almost no traffic. A squirrel ran out in front of me and once I put my left foot down at a stop sign right on top of slippery cardboard box and almost fell off. But otherwise no problems. I love my bike and really enjoy riding it. My issues to practice:
1. Cancel the turn signal
2. Better braking/downshifting prior to turns
3. Smoother starts and smoother turns from a stop
4. Keeping the balls of my feet on the pegs, not my heels.March 23, 2009 at 6:33 pm #17288CandiceParticipantFunny you said that you should go out into the street or sell the bike. I said the same thing to myself because I kept waving cars through the stop signs and then when it was clear I would go. I finally said to myself that I better start driving normal or sell the bike if I’m too scared of a little neighborhood traffic! I promptly got over it!
March 23, 2009 at 6:49 pm #17290MunchParticipantWish my story was as thought involved. I grew up around bikers. Mostly the old school Harley types. For entertainment they would pop Fat Boys up and see how much gravel they can pick up with the rear fender. Of course as a kid this can scare the bejeebers out of ya. So 20+ some years later…. I am at my shop and shooting the bull with the other mechanics. Motorcycles came up and I told them how it was cool that some of them would ride but I didn’t have the intestinal fortitude to get on one and hit the highways. Apparently that was the wrong thing to tell my brain. 2 days later I found myself here on BBM and reading all of Ben’s reviews. Settled on the V500 which I ended up purchasing a week after I said what I did. A week after that I had the Riders Edge course and permit. Riding regularly I put 3,000 miles on it before moving up to my current V900. I am now another 2,000 miles into riding the V900 and love every minute of it. Took my daughter on her first ride 2 up yesterday and am impressed at how well she did!I have gone through every imaginable weather experience with the exception of snow and ice. It just keeps getting more and more fun. Next month…. my first real long haul ride… will be going from Central NC to southern Georgia…I am stoked!
Work hard, play hard, and keep the rubber on the road!March 23, 2009 at 8:35 pm #17296briderdtParticipant“Then the first time I rode it to work people kept telling me these horrible stories about accidents and people they know who died on their bikes.”
Not that those people dying is funny (it’s not at all), but it’s funny how people will always bring this up. AND YET… How many people die each year in CAR accidents? Are these same people who are trying to warn you off your bike still driving their cars?
Hyprocrites…
March 26, 2009 at 9:12 pm #17330NoobacycleParticipantBack when I was 19 and worked a minimum wage and was a student, one of my buddies let me ride his blaster (quad) and I never wanted to get off of it after that. Not being able to afford something like that, I was craving that same feeling and started purchasing small, old, beaten up rat bikes, dirt bikes and the like. I had a 1977 enduro bike that had a warn clutch, but ran well. It cost me $150 at the time and I pretty much rode it on trails. Protective gear was a luxury at the time and I didn’t have a helmet. I ended up colliding head on with one of my buddies while he rode a YZ-80 and I came out of the crash with not a scratch. It was a low speed collision that nearly totaled both bikes.
After that, I got my motorcycle permit and took a private motorcycle lesson. The private lesson taught me a lot and I enjoyed learning. There was no MSF course at the time and I was only 20 years of age back then and 50 lbs lighter (1994). The whole road test with a motorcycle scenario was very intimidating for me and inconvenient. Both of my parents didn’t support my interest in motorcycles so it wasn’t easy. I looked for other ways enjoy this hobby and eventually purchased a 1984 Honda V65 saber for $500 which turned out to be too tall and big for me. A very scary bike that needed lots of cosmetic work (tach/speedo didn’t work). I didn’t get to ride it much due to the fact that it was in need of more work than it was purchased for. I did manage to trade it for a 1978 Honda Hawk 400cc bike that I loved. That bike was perfect for me and I unfortunately had to get rid of it due the fact that I was joining the Army in November of 95′.
13 years have passed and the passion was dead since then. I have a decent job now and found out about the MSF course and eventually got back into motorcycling. I got my motorcycle license in late September 08′ and my Kawasaki Versys in October. I just got all new gear and I’m looking forward to spring.
March 27, 2009 at 4:10 am #17338megaspazParticipantI just woke up one day and said I want to ride a motorcyle. Probably due to my typical asian parents not letting me get one in my younger years and my buddy got his M1 and was riding a couple of months already. Rounded up a couple of friends and we took the MSF together. The day after I got my orange slip, I was at the DMV and got my M1. A few days after that I got my first bike, the SV650S. In those few days, I really wanted an R1 and researched Yamaha dealers. My buddy who was riding before me talked me down to the SV. I was planning to do a month of parking lots, but being impulsvie, that lasted a couple of weeks before I hit the streets. A few days after hitting the streets, I was taking on the highway. Probably not too smart, but you can’t learn if you don’t do. After the first few days of starting to ride the streets, I was scared shitless. I was scared shitless the first few times on the highway. Ben actually saw me one weekend at work riding around campus and trying to not suck on the bike. I got used to the street and the highway pretty quick. About a month later, went on my first group (the first BBM) ride and that was awesome. Been riding pretty much everyday in the dry and wet ever since. Picked up my second bike in July, the Ducati 848. It’s almost a year now and I’ve racked up close to 15K in quality twistie, street, and highway riding. Did my first trackday in November and doing 12 trackdays this year. An impulsive decision has turned into a lifetime love. Even after having my first substantial crash in October, I didn’t have any questions that I’d be back on the saddle as soon as I could. This has been the best impulsive decision I’ve ever made.
March 27, 2009 at 2:23 pm #17341MaritimeParticipantI started out on a 50cc mini bike of my friends when I was 10, moved up to a 4 wheeler of my own at 14. It was all my parents would allow, my dad’s favorite line “You’re lucky if you die in a motorcycle crash, otherwise you are a vegitable.” This from a man who refused to wear a helmet when he drove our 4 wheeler. So I went to school , got a job, got married, had a son…..Turned 34 and said I don’t live at home, I am going to get a bike. First thing I did was hit the web, research it, found this and other sites, decided I better take the MSF. Best $450.00 ever spent. I thought I new a lot about bikes. Well I did, what I learned I didn’t know, was how to stay alive in traffic and our MSF drilled that and how to stop, swerve, survive stupid people on cell phones etc. That was important. Riding during that course in September here, the very end of season for most people, I was addicted, Riding is like crack for me, and as stressful as it can be, it actually calms me down?? Anyway, There are 2 grades of licenses here, 550 cc and under and unlimited, I already decided my first bike would be likely less than 550 cc but if you don’t get the unlimited the first time around it is long waiting list to do it all over again. I took the big bike test on a S40 Suzuki, had to go first because they did alphabetical order, Aced the test, thank god, got my endorsement. Started looking for a bike even though I was supposed to wait until I had the money saved, per agreement with my wife. Same day I got my license I found an 81 CM400T Honda. Guy wanted 800. I went to see it, and since I have been fixing cars, quads, lawnmovers etc. I could tell the bike was good. Offered the guy 600, he said 650…. SOLD, went to the bank and got the $$ off credit line, then went home to face the music. My wife was pisssed to say the least, but I got insrance and went and drove the bike home. No real traffic etc. Then started taking it a block away to the MSF course parking lot in the evenings for a few weeks, got to know the bike and then started taking it everywhere. My wife wanted me to sell it and I almost did. I had put 2500 kM’s on it in less than 3 weeks. She wanted to do an overnight trip to a town about 4 hours away. I said we don’t the money for gas, it was pushing 75.00 to fill the SUV and would take about 2 tanks to go there and back plus hotel room, meals etc, she said we would have the $$ if I didn’t buy the bike, then I said, lets take the bike it will only cost liek $25 for gas. Our son was staying with his grandparents so no issues. She said OK, so we went. Took all the back roads, no Highway, it took us 2 hours longer to get there but we had a blast! When that trip was over she said “I don’t think we should sell the bike” By the time the snow flew the old bike had another 3000 K’s on it and then disaster struck. I was on my way to a meeting at a hotel for work, taking the highway running 7500RPM when the bike started to act funny, then went crunch, and I blew a piston. Came to find out a piece of a cheap gasket, (Previous owner had used) had come off and plugged the right oil channel for the cylinder. I was devestated, I thought, I have no money to fix this, what am I going to do. I tore the bike down and was ready to part it out. Did some research again and discovered the newer model 450cc bikes honda built had better motors, extra oil hoses to prevent this. So I found a parts bike with a good motor but crap frame and forks etc. and 150.00 later, rebuilt the bike and just took it for it’s first ride. It is now a 6 speed and the motor is great, nice little boost in power. Then it snowed again so the bike is sitting until the weather improves but in about a week or so it will be ridden until I can afford to go bigger so my wife and I can do longer trips together.
Cheers.
March 27, 2009 at 2:53 pm #17344Clay DowlingParticipantShe kept mentioning how I’d look good on a bike. A friend bought a new Honda VTX1300, a beautiful machine, and then she really ramped it up.
I had another friend show me the basics on a beat up old Yamaha XS400, in his office parking lot. That hooked me, because it was an absolute blast.
A co-worker encouraged me to take the MSF class. After thinking about it for a while, I decided to take the class as a birthday present to myself. When I went out at lunch and bought a helmet, folks realized I was serious. When I bought a used bike, it finally dawned on my wife that I’d been paying attention when she said I’d look good on a bike (she claimed it was idle speculation on her part).
When I went to buy the bike I was too nervous to take it on a test ride. I couldn’t get the thing under motion. The seller threw me on the back and took off down the road, intent on demonstrating what a Honda Magna is capable of. It scared the bejesus out of me–this is a damned fast bike. I had to get the friend who owns the VTX to ride it home for me.
I took the bike out every day after work to a parking lot at the end of my street, working on basic throttle control. I had to knock that off pretty quickly though, because to buy gas I would need to go into town, and there was no way I was ready for in-town traffic. Fortunately, it was only two weeks from purchase of the bike to MSF class.
Class was stressful because I was learning a lot of new skills. It was also fun, because I got to apply those skills, and had fun with the other folks in the class, who were largely in the same boat. Testing was nervous making because of the u-turn box, which I just barely passed (it’s easier on my larger bike, even in the same box).
After I got my endorsement, I kept it to local roads for a couple of weeks, mostly training runs in the evening and on weekends to expand my skills. I finally took it out on the highway so I could go and show the bike to my parents.
Riding on the highway showed me that I needed to change some of the setup on the bike. The cruiser windshield was okay for riding on surface streets, but at highway speeds it made too much turbulence, so I took it off. The ride got smoother, but it took a lot more strength to hold on, and I got kind of tired after an hour or so. A flyscreen solved the problem, on a friend’s recommendation. A lot less air resistance and no turbulence.
Now I’m eager for the weather here in Michigan to get decent so that I can start riding to work again. We’ve been having freezing mornings with warm afternoons. So when I’m driving home in the cage, I can watch all the guys riding around, which is annoying. I’m compensating by doing motorcycle maintenance. Zenlike it isn’t, but it keeps me from going mad.
March 27, 2009 at 3:57 pm #17346briderdtParticipantMy two-wheels-and-a-motor journey is still underway, and hasn’t been a long ride yet.
It actually started long ago, when I was maybe 12. Mind you, my parents were (and still are, to some extent) very anti-motorcycle. My oldest sister was getting married, and her husband-to-be was storing his motorcycle (“it’s only a 350” he said) in my parents’ shed until he could sell it. Several times I went out there and sat on it when no one else was around. This was about 1976 or so (I guess that would make me 13 at the time)… I couldn’t tell you more about the bike other than it was black and chrome and I loved the feel of sitting on it and feeling the brake levers in my hand (it wasn’t until MANY years later that I realized they weren’t both brake levers).
Now fast forward to college. I was doing a lot of road bicycling. After college, it became a lot MORE road bicycling — I raced on a team for many years, as well as doing triathlon at a high level. I was very comfortable on the road in traffic on two wheels, and am happy to say that I have NEVER hit pavement because of a car (I have due to other bikes, but that’s another deal). So I have a pretty good radar built for seeing potential problems with cars when I’m on two wheels, and know just how vulnerable I am to damage from two-ton hulks of steel, aluminum and plastic at the hands of the clueless.
Fast forward again, to 2008… My wife made a comment about how she’s always wanted to ride a motorcycle, but in her previous relationships (we’re both on our third go-around), she would never have been allowed to… I said “why not?” She was a little more than shocked, especially when I said it was something we could do together. And I still had all those thoughts of the 13 year old boy sitting on that shiny black and chrome motorcycle.
So we started looking at motorcycles, gear, looked into classes… I got on this site and PNWRider. Read a ton. She wanted a cruiser. I wanted a sport bike (I’m comfortable in that position, much like I’m comfortable on a road bicycle). We laughed about our disparate styles, but were always supportive and never told each other that we should do anything different. I told my wife that we’d get her outfitted first, because she was the one that first brought it up. So… We go to a few dealers, sit on bikes. At one point she says she’s found a Harley she wants to look at. We go to the dealer, and she sits on the bike while it’s running. Nope. The vibration is too much for her (she’s got some history of arthritis, and had a cervical fusion done just over a year ago). So she goes back to the drawing board and researches. Settles on the Suzuki S50. We find a used one a short drive away (she’s dead-set on getting one from a dealer out of fear of buying some one else’s problems). She sits on it, looks… And we end up buying a new one that’s outfitted for touring (screen and floor boards).
I had spent my time looking as well, and had settled on 3 bikes I would have been happy with — Suzuki SV650, Kawasaki Ninja 650, or Yamaha FZ6. Happily, I found a used SV650s really close to where we’d just gotten my wifes bike (and only about a week later), convinced the guy to drive it in the back of his truck to my house (I filled up his gas tank for the trouble).
We got our gear, signed up for the MSF Basic class (in the same week, but not at the same class), and did some parking lot practice. We both went to the DMV and took the written test so we’d be legal to practice. I passed my MSF class, and then waited ’til my wife passed hers to get my endorsement. Well, she didn’t pass her class, and then within a month sprained her right wrist badly (she’s still recovering and can’t ride yet). I did get my endorsement, and am doing fine on the road (though I did do a no-speed set-down of my bike at an intersection once when I killed the engine — fortunately no damage at all).
I’m a rider for life now. And also have a pretty strong “mod” bug to go with it. Had the same thing with my bicycles (I have 8 bikes, and there’s always at least one of them in a state of “project”). Only having one motorcycle to work on, I have to make my mods fairly minor so it’s always ready to ride…
March 27, 2009 at 6:22 pm #17350Clay DowlingParticipantI’ve got three I rotate between, and I’ve got to say I really love getting around on two wheels. Wish I could get my wife to share that joy, but her idea of a nice ride is a kilometer – once around the subdivision.
March 27, 2009 at 8:52 pm #17355briderdtParticipantCan’t even get the kids to ride with me when I go running…
My solution — a tandem. Then she won’t have to worry about not keeping up.
March 28, 2009 at 4:01 pm #17376Jay TParticipantI wanted a motorcycle from the time I was 9. The local Honda/HD dealership was a few miles from my house. I went there every morning that summer. I sat on all the motorcycles that fit me. Fast forward 6 years. My Dad and Mom got divorced and my Dad (as his first choice to prove he was his own man) found a couple of matching Honda CL 100. We were both big guys and looked like monkeys F%C*ing footballs. They were just the right size. We got our permits and then got into the MSF course. This was 1976. We put TONS of miles on those little mini-bikes. Fast forward again, it is now 1996 and I decided, after a 15 year hiatus from riding, that if I didn’t ride this year, I never would again. I took the MSF course again. That year I got a 1996 HD Sportster. I put 8000 miles on it that season. I rode summer/winter. In 1997 I decided that I wanted to do something to keep my skills fresh, so I spoke to a MSF instructor who worked at my job about becoming an instructor. April 1998 I took the instructor course and proceeded to work every weekend for a year. The rest as they say, is history. I don’t work EVERY weekend now, but, I do work 2-3 a month. It is one of the most rewarding things I have done.
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