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August 8, 2008 at 7:43 pm #10107AndrewParticipant
I would say that you could kick up twice but that the engine won’t like it. The revs will be completely off.
August 8, 2008 at 7:56 pm #10109BoOZe P-ti MotardParticipantuh when i first started riding i just had firm grip on the bars and later i heard and learned that a finger or two on the lever is important, see a must ‘coz it is a safety timing, imean kinda diminish reaction time (i went thru dat!) not to forget a finger on the clutch lever but mine you had to pull the lever in 100% (new bikes have a ‘stuff’ to change friction zone)… grosomodo i always have been riding with two fingaz on the brake lever but at first, i was finding that awkward but with time i got used to that and at present i find it awkward to ride w/o my two fingers on the lever but!!!!!! the fingy thing i notice it when i ride with two fingers there, i give smooth throttle action to the bike while starting and while riding but also, i have the tendency not to push the engine hard on certain gears… what i want to say is that after a few months of riding with fingers-on-lever(FOL…lol) i decided to grab the bars as i was doing it at first and i said, wow is my bike possessed or what?! imean with you hand fully wrapping/gripping the throttle, you have the tendency to open up at its most…that is what i noticed.. but i am happy that riding FOL saved my butt few times…
texas dunno what your question was koz m BoOZe but well hope you find what you wanted between these lines and if not, ask again :S and the others are here as well
BoOZe
Solomolo RiderAugust 8, 2008 at 8:04 pm #10111Texas Lone StarGuestI guess question was not the right word, I originate from England (now live in Texas) and when I was taught to ride bikes back i the 60’s it was with one or two fingers on the brake, now doing the MSF course in Texas they told me it was considered dangerous, so I though maybe in the U.S. there was a reason, then I saw your posting, I must confess there were several things in the course that I was taught very different this was just one part.
August 8, 2008 at 8:38 pm #10116BoOZe P-ti MotardParticipantI am not from the US but from somewhere in the Indian Ocean but I’ll be moving to UK in the near future. Well it might be dangerous if you are new and panic while seeing a hazardous situation because remember, FOL is kind of timing reducing reaction time and if you (not you but you in general-lol) are a panicking new rider, with your fingers-on-lever, your quick reaction will be to press the lever hard and lock the wheels but does not mean if you do not have your fingers over there this situation won’t arise. Well riding should be fun but also instructive and reflexes, instincts and experience come with frequent riding. Practice does make perfect!! You should not be afraid because that’s what gana screw things up. Be cool and chillax! It’s not the end of the world, not yet…. Well a noob rider might learn from an experienced rider and vice versa because each and every bike has their own way of riding it and every bikers have their own way of riding bikes! Like if I asked the side what would be the best beginner bike and all would say ninja250r but i am a no-fairing-type so i might like cbx or gsf hooligan type. For me it is not a question of learning (or whatever) but liking what i am doing on what i am sitting. Someone might propose me a gixxer 750r and a kawi z750… I’ll go for the kawi… Same applies for the fingers-on-lever riding! And if one said it was dangerous, does not mean it is for certain…. Safe ride fun ride
BoOZe
Solomolo RiderAugust 9, 2008 at 5:47 am #10139AnonymousGuestSure, if you kick-up *twice* without letting out the clutch, it’ll go into 3rd then 4th, but my point was that you can’t go into 4th or 5th from 2nd with only one kick-up.
One kick-up/down will only go up/down one gear and it’s not possible to over-shoot.
August 9, 2008 at 9:02 am #10144BoOZe P-ti MotardParticipantof course its!!! not possible.. one at a time, this is no car
BoOZe
Solomolo RiderAugust 9, 2008 at 12:41 pm #10149BuddParticipantI have read several things that recommend against the two finger rule. One of them stated that it is possible to crush your fingers with the break. Most things I read say to keep it covered for increased reaction time. I don’t keep mine covered but I probably give the vehicle in front of me a pretty good buffer too. Admittedly, this does nothing to help with cars pulling out in front of me or other hazards, but I have pretty quick reactions and covering the break doesn’t feel natural to me.
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August 9, 2008 at 8:08 pm #10164BoOZe P-ti MotardParticipantas i said, different riders, different perceptions but also techniques and timings and whatever that distinguish each and every rider. the FOL saved my butt several times..well i was at fault anyways but i was just eyewashing a lady in the street when suddenly i got a buzz in my head which propelled me to look ahead and spoted the car a few metres away which had stopped on the road for dunno what reasons (6th sense!!!! XDXDDDD lol) and as i had my fingers ready, i just pressed it a lil hard then minisec after i pressed the rear brake…fink i shud open a debate on this
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