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The new FZ6R
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June 18, 2009 at 6:54 pm #19907bigguybbrParticipant
adjustable suspension is, in my opinion, absolutely necessary for making a bike beginner friendly. a 300 lb rider won’t enjoy the same settings as a 140 lb rider, nor will the 200 lb 6 foot guy in between them. in this day an age, there is NO excuse for a sportbike not having fully adjustable suspension.
So adjustable seat height, adjustable handle bar position, and adjustable rear suspension preload do nothing to help adjust to a rider if you don’t have adjustable front forks????
“”say it before say it again’ blah blah blah, could you be any more ignorant than bringing up something like this? it’s descriptive writing, they teach that in most highschools……”
Maybe you meant said it before, as in the past tense. Verb tense is taught in most good elementary schools, along with manners and etiquette.how can you say that power/weight ratio means a damn thing? power is simply a function of torque…
Power to weight ratio is more demonstrative of the performance of a vehicle as a whole rather than just a single aspect. Torque is a measure of rotational force, and is only a contributing factor that could cause a rear tire to break away (which you contend is the greatest problem facing beginning sport bike riders). If torque was the only factor in traction loss, tractor trailers would be the kings of doing burn outs. They apply huge amounts of torque at low rpms and yet they don’t fly out of control doing doughnuts. Why? Gear ratios, the friction coefficient of the tires, wheel mass, drive system (chain, belt, or shaft drive) etc. all have their part to play in at what point your rear tire breaks away. Now is the single biggest danger to a new rider on a sport bike truely the rear wheel breaking free from excessive low rpm torque? I really doubt it .
When you look at power to weight ratio you are getting a more complete picture of the capabilities of the vehicle by adding in weight and speed as factors.
Since this is a beginner forum, here is a slightly over simplified analogy in lay persons terms to get a basic understanding of horsepower and torque
Low torque, low horsepower: A weak person on a bicycle in a low gear – he can’t pull much and he can’t go fast.
Low torque, high horsepower: A weak person on a bicycle in high gear – he can’t pull much, but he can go fast.
High torque, low horsepower: A strong person on a bicycle in low gear – he can pull a bunch, but he can’t go fast.
High torque, high horsepower: A strong person on a bicycle in high gear – he can pull something fast.I’m glad you have a deep love of your 600R. It’s your bike so i would hope you love it. And i’m sorry for you that Yamaha decided there was no longer enough of a market to produce the 6 00R and discontinued it. But the only people who seem to hate the FZ6R, are people on forums who have never ridden it, and already wish it was something else.
For a real review of the bike from someone who has ridden it, go to
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/269/2520/Motorcycle-Article/2009-Yamaha-FZ6R-First-Ride.aspxJune 19, 2009 at 2:49 am #19933owlieParticipantBigGuy wrote:
“Since this is a beginner forum, here is a slightly over simplified analogy in lay persons terms to get a basic understanding of horsepower and torque”This is great. I’m printing it out and putting it with my bike research. Thanks!
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