September 18, 2008 at 3:58 am #2106JirikiParticipant
going to be grabbing lunch at google tomorrow (building 43)… any BBMers also googlers? megaspaz?
anyways, going to try to get there around 11:45…September 18, 2008 at 8:01 am #12316megaspazParticipant
i’m game. have the receptionist dial my extension. x36892
If there’s anything more important than my ego
around, I want it caught and shot now…September 18, 2008 at 11:54 pm #12343JirikiParticipant
apparently my post late last night didn’t work (or i forgot to submit)… i had my days wrong… actually going friday.. i will give you a shout….September 25, 2008 at 4:36 pm #12743eonParticipant
So what is it like to work at Google?
I’m curious as once upon a time I worked at Microsoft in Redmond and it was, erm, interesting. I learned a lot while I was there but not nearly as much as I expected I would. I had thought there would be lots of training classes but there was never time for that as there was always deadlines to meet. MS gets flak for always missing deadlines but I can tell you they are taken very seriously within the company. Over the space of 6 months as we got closer to our beta release date, my hours crept up past 100 a week. The pressure was incredible and I nearly had a breakdown at one point. And this was while working on a piss ant little project that never saw the light of day.
The amount of smugness was a bit sickening at times. Those who had been with the company 10 years acted as if they had tenure and could do whatever they wanted. The strange thing was, the really smart people were the most down to earth and easy to get along with. The amount of internal politics that went on was incredible. The was a definite hierarchy within the company with the Windows group at the top and MSN at the bottom. My biggest complaint though was there seemed to be no importance attached to the creative people. The GUI designer in my team was probably the least important member of the team. Strange to think that in an application that gathers data and presents it to a user, the actual presentation was never considered that important.
Ok, rant over. I am all better now. I left there 3 years ago and am in a much better place now.September 26, 2008 at 9:17 pm #12825BenParticipant
haha, Tell us how you really feel eon
I hope to eventually have a large company one day, and it seems like this sort of company culture even infects companies that try desperately to avoid it. Such is life I suppose.
~Best Beginner Motorcycles AdminSeptember 27, 2008 at 12:44 am #12833megaspazParticipant
Working at teh goog is pretty much what you *snip*Omission brought to you courtesey of the NDA police.*snip*
I work there and that’s all I can really say…
If there’s anything more important than my ego
around, I want it caught and shot now…September 28, 2008 at 6:25 pm #12900RupmiscParticipant
I have a certain amount of business experience and both business and legal training. It is certainly easy to believe that what you said is true. If you are in a better place now, consider yourself lucky, and be happy.
“The strange thing was, the really smart people were the most down to earth and easy to get along with.”
Universal truth (or at least pretty common). Smart people are valuable and they know it. Especially in a field where technical expertise is required. Having no need to prove themselves, they are secure, and don’t need to push others down to raise themselves. They benefit from happy co-workers. Exception: some smart people are ambitions and unscrupulous, they compete without rules. Both types are common in all companies.
“The amount of internal politics that went on was incredible.”
It’s quite credible. It is quite common.
“The was a definite hierarchy within the company with the Windows group at the top and MSN at the bottom. My biggest complaint though was there seemed to be no importance attached to the creative people”
A common belief with two sides. Let it suffice to say you need to find a balance. Personally, I loath marketing people (unreasonable personal prejudice based on unfortunate personal experiences). But a good idea gets totally screwed if you can’t do something with it. My own experience tells me that while you can’t exist without creative people, at some point you have to let managers manage and creative people create. It’s why so many entrepreneurs can build, but can not manage. Doesn’t mean that some managers aren’t a hell of a lot better than others. Best suggestion for a pure creative: make sure you can work for yourself.
You are so totally not alone. And microsoft is just one of many, or most.
I thought your post was pretty rational for a self described “rant”. In my case, verbosity over, but will probably recur soon.
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