[smokeizfire]

.. I went to the Harley Davidson dealer exactly 2 days ago where I saw a brand spanking new 2010 model there.

[Munch]

it’s there…..and welcome back.

[eternal05]

List has been updated

[SafetyFirst]

Could you add the CBR125R for those in Canada and Europe.

Also, why aren’t you showing any love for the Aprillia RS125? I’d take it the same would go for the RS-50?

[SafetyFirst]

45-50ish for a Ninja 250 on highway with me riding in the powerband the whole way.

[AtlAggie]

I noticed we are still missing some of the performance data on the S40.

I can’t find anything official, but most of the literature seems to list it at around 30 HP, which seems about right for the big single. You also might want to note the final drive type. I think the S40 is probably the only belt drive among the recommended beginner bikes, which might be important to someone who doesn’t want to mess with chain maintenance.

[owlie]

I think that the blast is a belt drive too.

[Munch]

it is.

[eternal05]

The reasons I poo-poo the RS125, despite being a hoot to ride (I’ve had the pleasure), are two-fold:

1) It’s a two-stroke. This means a number of things, but most importantly is that it’s mighty inconvenient in a number of ways. Read up on two-stroke vs. four-stroke engines if you’re unfamiliar with the distinction.

2) It’s categorized as a race/track bike, rather than a street sportbike. This means that it is MUCH more costly to insure, more costly to buy, and more costly to repair.

Don’t get me wrong: it’s a sweet little bike. Earlier, when I was really struggling with ergonomic issues on my Ninja, I took a look at the 125. It just turns out it’s more complicated than it looks on paper. Not a cost-effective bike at all.

[CBBaron]

The Yamaha WR250X/R bikes are fuel injected.

Also you may want to add the suzuki tu250x. A fuel-injected, 250cc, air-cooled standard. Should make an excellent beginner bike.

http://www.suzukicycles.com/Product%20Lines/Cycles/Products/TU250X/2009/TU250X.aspx

Craig

[eternal05]

Sometimes bikes (like the Ninja 250R) are FI in Europe and Asia, but not in the US. I made this guide using the manufacturers US specifications first, and the interwebs to fill in the gaps. Yamaha’s site lists fuel delivery for the WR250F (the X is not in their model line-up as far as I can see) is:

Fuel Delivery: Keihin® FCR 37

That is a model of carburetor. That said, there are probably a ton of little inconsistencies in the spreadsheet given that most of that information is not very readily available. It’s hard to read tone in writing, but I promise you I didn’t mean the above as harsh at all, and very much appreciate people error-checking my work!

I’ll take a look at the TU later, but Suzuki’s site isn’t loading at the moment.

[CBBaron]

The WR250F is an off-road machine. The WR250R is a dual-sport with FI in the US.
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelspecs/595/0/specs.aspx

The WR250X is a super-moto based on the WR250R and is also FI.
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelspecs/596/0/specs.aspx

Hope that helps.

Craig

[eternal05]

Thif ith me wif my foop in my mouf.

Great. I’m an idiot. Thanks for keeping me honest! I’ll swap these out when I get home from work (or, more accurately, when I remember).

[CBBaron]

The chart is a great reference and wouldn’t have noticed the mistake except I was interested in the WR250X. I can only imagine the difficulty in compiling these stats given the number of websites involved with different “specs” listed for each manufacture and sometimes different “specs” for each model.

The TU250X is basically the GZ250 except it is FI and a standard. Nice looking bike also.

Craig

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