[Sangria7]

I was looking at alternative cruisers and I came upon the Johnny Pag Raptor 300.

http://www.cbxmanmotorcycles.com/Johnny-Pag-Raptor-300-Cruiser-Motorcycle.aspx

Anyone have any information about them as far as reliability, performance, etc?

Thanks.

[Matt]

Looks to be a chinese made bike.
Be cautious when buying chinese. Thier QA is not up to par with what North Americans expect.

Big grumbles from buyers of chinese bikes are:
-Poorly assembled, often requiring much fo the bike to be disassembled and put back together with loc-tite.
-Poor parts availability for non-honda clone bikes
-very poor warranty service (make sure you read just what “6 month limited warranty” means to this company)

The best chinese make seems to be Lifan. But even they aren’t considered on par with the Korean makes, let alone the Japanese bikes.

Many chinese bikes use a clone of the Honda 238cc parrallel twin (the engine found in the Rebel 250 and Nighhawk). The nice thing about these bikes is that when you need a part, you can put any honda compatible oem or aftermarket part in there.

This johnny pag uses a parrallel twin 300cc engine. It could just be a borred out 238, or it could be an entirely different engine.
They claim 18.5 pounds of torque, which puts it a few up on the rebel, and would be about right for a bored out 238cc.

In all honesty, at $3400 US, you might as well get a used Rebel or other 250cc cruiser. The tiny difference in power won’t really be noticed, but the piece of mind knowing that when something goes wrong, you’ll have a dealer network and parts supply *on this continent* are not to be overlooked.

Unrelated:
The United Motors bikes they sell are, I believe, Hyosoung made.

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“The two seconds between ‘Oh S**!’ and the crash isn’t a lot of practice time.”

[Anonymous]

It looks like it’s made by one of those Chinese companies that make the really cheap no-name scooters you see being sold all over the internet.

Only a 6 month “limited” warranty and no dealer network I’m sure.

Personally, I’d avoid it like the plague, especially as it’s not priced much below similar offerings from the mainstream manufacturers (note freight and assembly not included).

[smokeizfire]

Everything looks nice, except the warranty. Not very attractive for an unknown manufacturer in the US.

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[BoOZe P-ti Motard]

this bike i have not seen but a similar one from Sam, that’s what was written on the crankcase and it was an I-twin with lotzofnoise and was rather kewl in looks but the seating posture, personally i was not at ease since i had to flex my legs straight to the front and was ok to ride solo but 2up… i felt this lack of power but i think it was the sprocket since it had rather less teeth than the other cruisers… i dunno where to put the keys for ignition (dunno if it had any) but there was a sort of lob on the tank which when turned, would call on the battery. and gas could be put on either side of the tank. the passenger however, had no specific area to hand grip himself (no accessories)… but it was a good bike to ride on long straight no traffic roads…

UPDATE:

http://www.bikesandquads.co.za/SAM320ccREGALRAPTOR.html

that was what i was talking about…

BoOZe
Solomolo Rider

[CBennett]

I stayed away from those because of hard part availability and warranty and general just not as well made/put together as other bikes that have been around for a while and have a good dealer support network

[Andrew]

You could get a new Honda Rebel for that price.

[Sangria7]

What about these…?
http://www.umamerica.com/site/usa/motorcycles/cr/specs/specs2.html#usa_motocr2

its the United Motors (which I read was Hyosung) V2C-250T.

Any thoughts.

[smokeizfire]

The Johnny Pags look real nice. Almost full out custom. The “pee wee” OC chopper.

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[Matt]

After reading that interview, I have to say, I’m actually slightly more interested in a JP bike. I still wouldn’t trust it as a primary bike… but as a cheap (in all senses of the word) cruiser… I could see myself buying a 300cc Bobber… of course, for similar money and a helluvalot of hard work I could buy a couple of parts Rebels and make my own baby bobber…

Vulcan 500 Bobber anyone?

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“The two seconds between ‘Oh S**!’ and the crash isn’t a lot of practice time.”

[BoOZe P-ti Motard]

but but that’s the bike i rode here!!!! jony fag, imean pag builds these? but there’s sam written but its all same!!!!! but it has passenger seat…!!!!

BoOZe
Solomolo Rider

[Rab]

http://www.powersportsnetwork.com/enthusiasts/review_list_mfg.asp?mfg=1325&cat=1&catdesc=Motorcycles&mfgname=Johnny+Pag

[smokeizfire]

Something from the HD Soft tail family. Like the Rocker.

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