2009 Kawasaki 250R New or used… that is the question…
June 23, 2009 at 3:25 pm #3050
I’ve been inquiring with a local Kawa dealer in my area and so far they have been very helpful with me in shopping for a bike.
Right now I am looking at a brand new red 2009 Kawa 250R with an OTD price of $4,432.50 (taxes and fees incl. They don’t charge freight, woohoo!) But they have a black used 2009 with a few scratches and they are asking $3200 (Taxes and DMV fees not included). I haven’t seen the used bike yet but for that price, I am willing to put a deposit down on it.
I don’t have my license yet since I haven’t received my waiver but I’m over here pulling my hair because it’s a decent deal to get a fairly “new’ish” 2009 Kawa 250R. They will also deliver either bike to my development for $50!!!
What should I do?! Should I go and check it out or just wait it out?June 23, 2009 at 3:54 pm #20066
And find out what your out the door price will be. There may not be a big advantage to the used bike. On the flip side, both bikes will be gorgeous.
And see Captain Crash’s warning about what you should do to get started. Essentially, don’t buy until you’ve taken the MSF class, in case you discover that you really hate this motorcycling thing.June 23, 2009 at 4:53 pm #20069
I actually passed the MSF course last Tuesday so I’m set on that first step I will ask the salesperson the OTD price on that sucker and see if there’s a huge difference in price.June 23, 2009 at 5:43 pm #20075
That’s a good position to be in. Other things to do:
1. Get your financing in order. Either have cash in hand, or a bank that can write the loan. If you’re young financing can be a bear to get.
2. Get your gear. Typically gear is going to run you $750 to $1000. It’s a bit of a shock, but an important thing that you can’t sidestep.
As a new rider, you might want to pull the fairings off of your bike and ride it naked for a bit. You’re going to drop the bike, probably at zero speed, and the plastics will get trashed.
Then again, somebody else here pointed out that the plastics do a good job of protecting the expensive hard parts in the event of an actual crash at speed. I’d rather trash plastics than engines any day.June 23, 2009 at 6:29 pm #20077ustfuParticipant
Where is your dealer located? I got a quote in Daly City.. OTD price is $5200!!!!June 23, 2009 at 6:54 pm #20081
I just got the OTD price for the used 2009 and after taxes and DMV fees, it could be mine for $3567.50. That saves me a good chunk of change from the new one. I got my youshimura concept leather jacket, boots, Icon gloves and the Shift jeans. All I’m missing is the helmet.
Kawa financing no good? I have some cash but not a lot bunch, somewhere in the ballpark of $500-$600, haven’t checked the funds yet. Should I jump on it stat before someone steals right from under my nose?!
-ustfu, I live in Orange County, NY.June 23, 2009 at 7:11 pm #20084
I don’t know if dealer financing is good or not. I do know that banks and credit unions are less likely to put you into a screwy deal. They like everything nice, clear and easy to understand so that they can get your repeat business. Also, so they don’t get shafted on the deal if screwy finance terms cause you to default.June 23, 2009 at 7:16 pm #20085zeppelinfromledParticipant
There’s no reason not to check out the bike. It depends on what their definition of “a few scratches” is.
A couple things to find out before you decide. Make sure that the scratches (and the drop the caused them) don’t do anything to void a warranty. Find out how bad the scratches are, and how much it would cost to fix the damage if you decide that you want to (insurance obviously won’t cover it).
Honestly, it sounds to me like you might want to wait and save up some more money before you buy. If you have 5 or 6 hundred dollars in cash, you can figure you’ll probably spend close to half of that on a helmet. Best case, you have $400 to put down, which isn’t going to work all that well for a loan. I’d try to put 20% down (others who have more experience than me with financing vehicles can tell me if I’m being realistic or not).
We’re talking about savings of $800 for a bike that’s been dropped (again, it depends on their definition of “a few scratches”). It may be a pretty decent deal, but I wouldn’t worry too much about missing it. There are plenty of used bikes on the market, many of them much cheaper than this one.June 23, 2009 at 7:43 pm #20090
Good point, I guess I could always ask my bank to see what they could offer me.June 23, 2009 at 7:50 pm #20091
I didn’t even take the warranty aspect of things into consideration. From her description, she claimed that the bike had a tiny tear in the rear seat and the “scratch” on the tank was already touched up, and that the bike was in overall good shape aside from those 2 mentions.
My original plan was to save up a few bucks here and there to make a little payment, probably pay off the fees and taxes since I know I won’t be able to save up over a $1000 to have a decent riding season. I probably could pull it off but that means I will probably be looking for an early September purchase. NY summers are short
My main concern is getting a used 08-09 250R at a cheaper rate than for what they are asking brand new. Not many 250R’s are being traded in from what I’ve seen from shop hopping. I’ve yet to come across a 2008. I’ll take a little gander and see what she looks like. Like you said, she may not even be worth the $800 savings.June 25, 2009 at 12:52 am #20155gsmurfetteParticipant
have you checked out craigslist? On the Portland and Seattle boards, there have quite a few for sale. I got mine with 1700 miles on it. I got it because the guy that bought it paid for it out right, and then he lost his job and couldn’t afford the insurance on it. He broke her in for me. The YZF600r, I got from a dealer, but they listed it on Craigslist, and listed the OTD price, which was dirt cheap because it had been laid down (it was stolen too). Got her running with a little elbow grease, waiting for the ignition to come in, and some other parts. She’ll be street worthy for about 400 bucks (minus an ugly cowling). My husband says, if we leave the ugly cowling, then we don’t have to invest in an alarm…..lol. I have only bought one new vehicle in my life. I prefer used. That being said, I also drive them into the ground. We have only sold one car, and that was because we had 3 and couldn’t move them all. I’d like up get a larger car (like the Mazada5 that seats 7, since we have 5 people and 3 car seats, a bit cramped), but my subi will be my son’s when he’s 16, so we’d have 3 cars for 5 years…..that off topic.
Check out the bike, make sure to look under the cowlings as well, there could be hidden damage. Ask about the frame, forks, how fast it had been laid down, etc. Run away if the frame was damaged! Forks are expensive also. If you’re mechanically inclined, things can be done for pretty cheap, but you have to know what you’re doing. Make sure that the casings aren’t cracked as well. I haven’t taken my bike apart yet, but it looks like it’s all one case instead of separate cases (i.e. crank case, oil, etc.)June 26, 2009 at 1:20 am #20225
I’ve checked on a constant basis, but there’s only one 2009 250R Special Edition and the guy is asking $4000 for it. Not really a great deal. I did see a few older models, but I don’t really like the way they look at all. I’m somewhat handy, but I don’t really trust myself when it comes to bikes since it’s so new to me. I’d like to learn to take care of my own, but I don’t want to take the risk either and kill myself cause I didn’t torque something to the right spec. I definitely have my mind set on a 08-09 250R so I’m just going to save my pretty pennies until I have at least a good down payment like zep suggested and get the bike that I truly want.
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