Suzuki SV650 Review

The Suzuki SV650 is a motorcycle that is hard to pin down. Most motorcycles that are great for the experienced rider are much too powerful for someone new to the hobby of motorcycling. On the other hand, most beginner motorcycles are too underpowered and veteran riders are left wanting more. This has led new riders buying 600cc+ motorcycles in an effort to 'plan ahead' for when they are experienced. Unfortunately these type of motorcycles were designed for racing and therefore are not very newbie friendly.

The suzuki SV650 and the SV650s (sport edition) are the most modern and the largest displacement bikes that this website recommends as of this writing. The 90-degree liquid cooled V-twin, 645cc, fuel injected engine delivers power in a very managable way and is great for both a new and experienced rider. Most sportbikes are equipped with an inline-4 engine which is the equivilent to a jet turbine in terms of power output. They can go quite fast once you rev them up to speed, but most of them are left lacking when it comes to mid-range torque. The SV has mid-range power in spades, and is the type you need when riding on the street. That is also the primary reason why the SV makes such a great beginner motorcycle. It allows the newer rider to get used to the sensitivity of the throttle without having to worry too much about the motorcycle taking off without them. If you pick up an older SV650 (pre-2003) you will find that the frame is more rounded compared to the new versions, this allows the frame to be 100% cast aluminum alloy. The older tube frames were partially cast and the rest was welded together. Both frames are well designed and very stiff which really adds to the already impressive handling of this bike. Couple that with the stock Metzler Mez 4 tires and you have a bike that can keep up with other more race oriented bikes in the twisties. One gripe that most SV owners have is the suspension. A lot of riders think it's much too soft which leads some people to replace their front forks with those of a Suzuki GSXR, but i think that the suspension works well enough on the street. If you were going to be doing some heavy riding either on the track or maybe some aggressive twisties then it may be worth it to change out the forks, other than that I wouldn't bother. One more thing that some owners complain about is the hard seat that comes stock on the SV. After some saddle time myself I would tend to agree with them, so if you are going to be going on some long trips you may want to switch the seat out for an aftermarket seat (maybe a corbin). When all things are considered the SV650 is not only a great looking bike, but also a really fun one to ride. This bike offers a great alternative for those that are too self consious to start on a 250cc or 500cc motorcycle or those that simple have had lots of 2 wheeled dirt experience and want to move on to the street.

 

Pros

Half fairing means less plastic to break in case of a drop. 70 hp is enough for the experienced, but not too much for the new rider. Cheaper than a 600cc 'crotch rocket'.

 

Cons

Suspension is too soft Might be too much power for someone not comfortable on 2 wheels (either a bicycle or dirt bike).

 

Specs

Engine: 645 cc, four-stroke, liquid cooled, 90° V-twin, DOHC, 8-valves, TSCC Power: 70 HP @ 9000 RPM Torque: 62.00 Nm @ 7500 RPM Fuel Capacity: 4.23 gallons Top Speed: 124.3 mph Miles Per Gallon: 50-55mpg

Comments

Almost every bike out there is set up with springs for 150Lb riders.

If you weigh more than that, you need firmer springs.

For under $100, you can get a set of Sonic or Works Performance fork springs tailored to your weight, and it is a simple job to replace them. This is the first thing that needs to be done on almost any bike, and really changes the character of the bike.

Considering your recommendation of the SV650 as a possible beginner bike (even though it's over 600cc) would you also include the DL650 (V-Strom) as another potential beginner bike? It has a modified version of the widely acclaimed SV650 engine, so I would imagine that power & control would be similar. Mind you, the V-Strom 650 weighs 418lbs in contrast to the SV650's 372lbs. Your thoughts?

Also, would the BMW F650GS make your list of beginner bikes, consider its size, weight, maneuverability, etc?

First the V-Strom is hideous in my opion and I've owned the SV650s w/ lower fairing beautiful bike, and wheelies all day. The 'Strom is also very tall. But, if you happen to be 6 foot plus than that would be a great thing for you. The naked SV650 seems to be very popular as well, as having the same sweet engine as the best Circuit bike out of the box, short of a new front fork!

Adam M's comment on the V-Strom neither helpful or coherent. If you want to tell us that a bike is hideous, then tell us why.

I recently discovered this bike in my searches, and all of the reviews I read about it were very favorable. They compare it heavily to the SV650, which makes sense. I'd like to get more opinions (favorable or otherwise) on this bike from any you guys who know the bike, and especially whether you think it would be a good first bike like the SV650.

Thanks a lot,
Mark

PS: I'm definitely not interested in "wheelies all day."

Mark

The SV's lower seat height and lighter weight should make it a better 1st bike. The DL 650 is tall and more top heavy. For tall strong riders it may not be too much of a problem, but generally speaking a lower center of gravity, lighter weight and lower seat height makes for a better beginner bike.

Thanks for the reply. I'm 6' 1", so I guess I'll just have to sit on one to see how it feels. I'm favoring this bike right now, because I like the thought of sitting more upright than I would have to on a SV650 (sport hunch position)

I'm looking to commute and do some joy-riding, but I'm sure the commute time will far outweigh the "joyride" time, so that's why I think the upright position is for me.

If anyone has any suggestions/opinions of bikes to look at in this vein - (V-Strom 650, Kawasaki Versys, etc) please let me know.

Thanks a lot,
Mark

Mark

If you want to see these bikes in "action" check youtube. Type in the model you wish to view (in the search window) and there will be any number of video downloads to choose from!

I haven't researched the V-strom 650 AKA the wee-strom yet, but I will definitely keep an eye out for it. I have been avoiding BMW's for beginner motorcycles simply because they are more expensive than their Japanese counterparts. People have different income levels though, and what might be expensive for me might be super cheap to someone else, so I will have to review some of the BMW's in the future.

Ben
Best Beginner Motorcycle Admin

My home state of New Hampshire......more registered motorcyclists per capita than any other state in the U.S., and I live up in the beautiful northern part of the state where the riding is UNREAL (just watch out for the MOOSE!!!) I bought a new SV 650 at the beginning of the summer and have since put near 4,000 mi. on it. I think I'm a closet SV addict now. I LOVE MY SV and would HIGHLY recommend it to ANYONE...not just beginners. It's easy to "push and pull" around, nimble, responsive, FUN, cheap to fuel, cheap to buy, a definate looker......should I keep going (b'cause I could all day) Did I mention I LOVE MY SV!!!!??? I have riding experience on all sorts of bikes, and my SV is one of my favorite "all around" picks (I'm 5'9" tall and weigh 160lbs.). Gets a bit windy and sketchy above 90mph or so, or passing big rigs (small wind cowl), but I love it's naked stripped look. Yes...the seat is ROUGH after about 1hr. riding (I find a pair of bicycle racing style padded shorts help a TON), but those are really my ONLY complaints about this bike. Sorry...I'd love to write more but I'm going riding!!!! Questions?? franconialocal@hotmail.com

I have flip-flopped over this for a month. I went from a Kawasaki KLR-650 to a Suzuki DL-650 (V-Strom), back to the KLR, back to the DL, then over to the Suzuki M50 cruiser for a couple of days (sweet cruiser, maybe another time). Finally, for several reasons, I am convinced that the DL will be my first bike.

I took the MSF course a couple of weeks ago. LOVED it. I feel equipped to ride now, so time to get my bike. I'll report back when I have it and have logged a few miles.

Mark

PS: I'm probably going to get an ABS model. Any reasons I shouldn't?

Mark

Congrats! ABS rules, I wish it was offered on my bike :(

Let us know how your first ride goes!

Ben
~Best Beginner Motorcycles Admin

I picked up my Black '08 DL-650 last night. I was a little nervous the first time in traffic, 'cause the only experience I had before was the controlled course at the MSF class. I managed to make it to the gas station (they sent me off with about three drops!), then took the long way home. Very nice.

I opt'ed to not get ABS, for several reasons, mostly the wait that would've been unbearable after all this time. I would've liked to have it, but...

Anyway, the first ride was a blast. This morning, I took it out again before work, not on the streets, but on the fire road next to my house. I took it easy, but it was some great fun. I'll try to post pics soon.

Thanks again Ben for all the help you provide newbies like me,
Mark

Mark

Read your progression to deciding on the V-Strom 650 - you will not be disappointed.

For the money it offers way more than the Versys and KLR models. Needs your weight specific fork springs to be optimal - I got an ABS model used (6234 mi.) with many a farkle (accessories) for a killer price. Solid, reliable adventure tourer for sane riders who want to travel primarily and race about little or none.

Mileage range is ~250 miles on a tank. Many aftermarket improvements available. Stromtroopers forum is a great resource. You've beaten the BMW snob appeal with a proven design that keeps getting better. ride on!

B-Strom

Congrats mark

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Kick

I have had 34 motorcycles over my 65 years, the DL650 has been the most fun bike that I have ever had. I am 5'8" tall and 140lbs and I have no problem handling the bike. It has performed flawlessly over the 5600 miles so far. I have two other bikes in my garage right now, a 2002 Harley Rode King and a Kawasaki ZX1400, I prefer the Suzuki DL650 hands downm7faha

I sat on a new v-strom at the dealer today and it was very top heavy. I like the sit up position but it was too tall and heavy. How come it seemed right to you?
doid you lower the shock?
Thanks
Richard

First post. Older guy than most here, My experience: rode a 80 cc Honda scoot for years in the 80's and 90's (if you think you're invisible on a bike, you should try a scooter. On a scooter you have to assume you're in permanent stealth mode) Took an MSF class in August 07, and despite my objections was placed in the 'advanced' group (wanted to come at it as if I had never twitched a throttle in my life) Bought my SV after comparing it to a Ninja 500 - and yeah, it was mostly looks and seat comfort - but there are some other advantages as I'll point out below.

After 2-1/2 months and about 2700 miles, I can say SV650 is a great bike for a beginner.
Throttle response is very linear, meaning it acts more like a rheostat or a volume control than a throttle on a parallel twin or four. But power is there if you want it! Frame and engine is aluminum - it actually weighs less dry than the Ninja 500 (372 lbs. to 388 lbs.). You sit up straighter on the standard, and that makes it easier to maneuver at low speeds. More like the duo-sport Yamaha I rode in MSF than a cruiser or a sport bike with clip on handlebars. I would HIGHLY recommend getting the naked SV vs the SV650S. The simple reason is that you WILL DROP IT. I dropped my bike twice at low speed (2-85 mph? I'm golden. 1-2 mph, look out. Keep off that front brake lever!)

Plastic is expensive; bar ends, clutch and brake levers are not. Drop or slide Ninja 500 on its side and you will find out that you can practically total the bike in the cost of replacement fairings alone.

For insurance purposes, the standard SV650 is not considered a sport bike; that means that insurance will be lower than for either the NINJA or the SV650S. (When I was pricing insurance, I found that insurance could run as much as 25-30% more for sport styled bikes).

PS - Haven't felt the need to adjust the suspension, but have noticed some diving in the front on turns - not bad for my skill level, but I can foresee a time when I might consider changing the fork oil to something heavier. Also I got a small windscreen , an F-16, and that made all the difference at freeway speed. On Highway 24 east to Walnut Creek (east bay) new blacktop and California drivers, I didn't know how fast I was going until I ran out of gears and checked my speedo - 85. Felt like 50.

You "WILL" not drop it. If you're careful with anything, it can last. I'm 17 and went straight from my 50cc moped to an '07 SV650s. Avsolutely brilliant. Like everyone says, very quick if you need it to be but manageable if you're not used to big bikes (it was the first bike above 125cc I'd ever rode)

So don't listen to people like this. You won't drop anything for sure if you're careful. Buy it and have fun :-)

Hope this helps

;-)

I guess i'm just more clumsy than most haha, I dropped my first bike 4 times!

Ben
~Best Beginner Motorcycles Admin

ok...your 17 and had'nt dropped one yet... write back when your 20 and let us know!! Everyone that rides a motorcycle WILL fall...which is why I always reccomend to my friends that they start off on a dirt bike..they tend not to get damaged too easily from minor spills, and the same can be said for the riders.

Just my two cents!!
Mo

Though he's only 17 he's absolutely right. If you ride with care and you're not a complete idiot... you can last a hell of a long time without a laydown. Sure you'll scare yourself a few times, but hopefully that will put you back in check! Somethings riders forget is that this isn't MotoGP 2008 for Xbox 360... this is real life! Ride carefully and once you really know how to ride then start pushing your RPM's. Until then, lay low and keep learning on turning and balance. I hope this helps, maybe all of you are as clumsy as Ben is!! Ha ha ha... as for a persian dude, my dad always said you wreck it once you're done, i'm always careful not to get my bike stripped from me... its my love! SV650s all the way kids!!

"drop" doesn't mean "lay down" I've dropped my bike at practically a dead stop for a couple of reasons, like gravel slipping underfoot and going from a stop on an incline before I really knew how to do it. I don't know a single rider that hasn't done something like that, and I know a lot of riders.

As far as "laying down" the bike, meaning going down at speed, yes that is something that safe riding and caution will help you to avoid. Those are the ones that hurt the rider, but even dropping a bike with no speed will hurt a faired bike. Hence the first post about the 650N being better in that regard than the S.

I'm "careful" and I dropped mine twice at low speeds. I think it's more about experience than being careful. And don't get too smug about never dropping a bike, you know the old saying, there's 2 kinds of motorcycle riders, those who've gone down, and those who haven't done down, yet.

Hi

I just want to say great site. I have been commuting for about 2 years on a 400cc. I am looking at baying something in the 650cc range. I wanted to know, you talking about the Suzuki SV650 and DL650 (V-Strom) what about the Suzuki Bandit 650S?

I have been looking at all three off them and cannot really decide:
SV650 – Seat passion could become hard on back.
DL650 - Too heavy and big
Bandit 650S – Don’t know

I’m about 5’3 tall and weigh 1140 lbs.

what is you your feeling about the Bandit?

1140 lbs? I think a Boss Hoss is more your style. Only a V8 will get you moving at any decent rate.

The 650 bandit is 4-cylinder and therefore a lot more HP than the other two.

Just because it is a four cylinder does not mean it has more horsepower. Silly rabbit.

Reading this, I agree completely. It's at the top end of a bike that you would want as a beginner.
That said, the top speed that I've hit on a 2007 SV650 is 135 mph. Flat, straight road. I maintained it for about 10 seconds and couldn't get it any higher than 135.
Not that I suggest doing that. It's pretty insane, especially for a newbie.

Did it have a speed governor? Or did it just hit redline at that speed?

Ben

~Best Beginner Motorcycles Admin

... Or did he just shit himself :)

I would guess neither. He ran against the wall of air resistance. Drag increases as the square of velocity, and power to push throught a fluid (in this case, air) increases as the cube of velocity. My old Katana did the same thing when I tried to max it out - the needle just crept up slower and slower until it reached about 128 - wasn't redlined, and I wasn't letting off, it just didn't have any more go.

I'm leaning toward an SV 650 as my first bike but I can't quite afford a 2008. Can I retrofit ABS on an used SV?

I'm no mechanic, but I think that would be more work than its worth.

ABS is good, but I don't think its that bad if you don't have it on your bike. None of the bikes I've ever ridden have had ABS.

Ben
~Best Beginner Motorcycles Admin

Whats up guys, i just bought the 2008 sv650s in blue. I've never riden before but i signed up for 5 class' at a private school where i could use their bikes 1st so i dont destroy myn. hah. I cant wait to take this bike out, sat on it today and was sold. Any advice for a new rider with a new sv650s?

how much did it cost you to roll a new SV650 off of the showroom floor?

Thanks,
V.

I purchased my 2008 SV 650 at the end of May for 6,200.00. This included assembly, tax title and license and the test ride of course. I believe it retails for 5,999.00. (at least it does here in WI)

I stumbled upon this site looking for reviews on the SV650 and have found a ton of information! I am a (hopefully) soon to be new rider and I've been shopping around for bikes. I've wanted to get a bike for as long as I can remember, but parents would never get me one as a kid and now that I'm financially stable I want to get one on my own. I've been torn between what style of bike I wanted (cruiser or sport) and how big of a bike to get to start on. It would be used for commuting to work and for joy riding as well so I'm trying to find something that would be comfortable. I've decided that I really like the naked style bikes like the SV650. I know you strongly recommend getting a 250 bike, but I would prefer to get something a littler bigger. I'm a bigger guy (6 feet tall 300 pounds) and would like to get something I could grow into and keep instead of worrying about trying to sell a bike to get a new one. That being said I was looking around for naked style bikes and found the Hyosung GT650. It looks almost identical to the SV650, but costs about a grand less. I know Hyosung is a Korean brand, but thats about it. I did find that they have a 2 year warranty on their bikes. I was wondering if you know anything about the quality and performance on their bikes. Just from poking around on their site it seems like they have 4 different styles with 2 different engine options. Any thoughts on Hyosung as a brand and my decision to go with something like the SV650?

*EDIT*

Also, what is the difference between ABS and the non-ABS SV650? do they mean ABS like a car would have ABS or is it something different?

Yes, ABS is exactly the same thing a car would have.

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The Hyosung is an sv650 built by hyosung with licensing and permission from suzuki. They are essentially the same bike. I have found that with bikes that you do get what you pay for though so beware if the price is a little lower that might meant that they skimped somewhere on materials or components. Check for quality brake assemblies, frame materials etc.

I've found plenty of websites that compare the SV650 directly to other bikes (honda 599, ninja, KZ6), but none that compare it directly to the Versys. These are the top two that I'm considering right now. the KZ6 is still on the table as is the F 650 GS, though that's the one I've done the least amount of research on so far. I've ridden none of them, but I've had a chance to sit on all but the F 650 GS. I'm open to suggestions of other bikes, but I'm pretty sure I'll end up with one of these. I've already researched and dismissed most of the others that are out there (new).

I've also noticed that the SV650 is also the most inexpensive out of all these bikes.

btw...
I'm a newbie (who may still end up starting on a 250, but that's a different conversation.)
New bike will be primary transportation (once basic skills are developed. not trying to rush onto the freeway.)
mostly local riding, but I do take regular weekend trips out of town. (portland, OR to vancouver, BC)

Any advice or suggestions would be great!

i'm an experienced bike borrower.. lol...
i grew up riding my mom's (yeah i know) road and trail Suzuki SP 100 cc, and got through all my learning with dumping that in the woods over and over until i rode better. Since then I've borrowed bikes from family and friends including Yamaha Maxims and Viragos, a big honda VTX 1300 , and a harley (not sure which model, not my dad's softtail duece though that had $30k invested in it) . I definately learned a lot riding in a benefit ride (for a friend who died on his harley) along side 100 other bikes, so I don't feel like i need to start really small, however i'm 5'11" and 150 lbs so should I be conscerned about going to big. Right now I'm leaning towards a SV 650 or a Yamaha FZ 600 both of which have a 1000 cc big brother. I would imagine that if I buy a bike I'll use it to commute occasionally, a lot of joy riding around town, and an occassional longer scenic ride with my girl on the back. The bigger bike probably would handle 2 up better then the 600's.. but I want to feel like i can control the bike in an emergency as well, stop quick or turn quick .. and i assumed the smaller bikes were better at that, not to mention big insurance difference (age 29 might not matter as much as for the younger guys). One issue I'm having is the customer service at the japanese bike dealers is horrible, they could care less what I want, unlike the harley dealers that always treat me right and answer my questions... makes me want a buell, but i can't afford that. Oh and that's another thing... I like being different, but SMART.. so what bike do you think I should be looking at.... and is it true that most dealers won't let you take a test ride? this is what i was told, and i said i'm not going to spend $6k and not take it for a spin, but they claim their insurance doesn't allow.

I'm the guy that wrote the post right before yours.
I personally prefer standards over sportbikes. Mostly cause of comfort (being bent forward for long periods does not sound fun), but also cause I'm really not a fan of the 'crotch rocket' look.
That said, I never would have looked twice at the FZ6 if the dealer hadn't pointed it out to me. I LOOKS like a 'crotch rocket', but when I sat on it I was surprised at how upright the seating position was. It FELT like the bike I was looking for, even though it looked nothing like it!

On the other hand, the SV650 LOOKED much more like what I was looking for (none of todays bikes have 'that look' anymore, but the SV was closer), but when I sat on it the seating position was noticeably more leaning forward. Not a huge difference, but definatly noticeable...

also, I believe that as far as insurance goes, the FZ is considered a sportbike and the SV is considered a standard. I don't have any numbers handy, but I think you're going to pay more to insure the FZ. (that is, unless you're getting the sports model of the SV. In that case, never mind...)

The FZ also costs 1000 more than the SV.

I think I also like the Vtwin engine in the SV. I'm sure the FZ is great, but from everything I've read it seems like the SV has got the torque and power in the mid-low range and I could see that being useful, while the FZ has got a higher top speed. I'm not interested in racing at all and I couldn't care less about the top speed.

all things considered, I'm leaning towards the SV myself, though I'm hesitant to take the FZ off the table completely quite yet.

Have you looked at the Kawasaki Versys? It might be worth checking out. right now I'd say the Versys and the SV are the top two I'm considering, with the FZ in third place but maybe still in the running.

I would LOVE to be able to test ride all three of these and them make my decision, but that may prove difficult...

I know the Yamaha guys where I'm at have a deal that once you buy the bike, you get a one hour grace period that you can bring it back and undo the deal if it turns out that you change your mind once you get to ride it. (as long as you haven't wrecked it or dropped it or anything.) That's the closest thing that they offer to a test ride. maybe they offer something similar to that where you are?

-Jason

P.S. BTW, I'm a total newbie who's only ridding experience is as a passenger on the back of my dads bike when I was a kid. I'm taking the beginner class at the beginning of next month.
I wouldn't be surprised if some piece of info somewhere in my ramblings is incorrect. I've researched so many bikes that I may have mixed up reviews in my head or something...

I have been reading comments for both the sv 650 and the Suzuki gs500. I have been riding and racing off road since 1972. So with the gas prices what they are my family decided to give motorcycle a try for commuting and general running around. SO my first instinct was to find a large dual sport dirt bike in the spirit of what I was most familiar with. After evaluating everthing from big Husqvarna 610's to Suzuki DR650's my wife and I realized the very secong you consider two up...that entire class of single cylinder dual sports that have dirt bike roots are no longer a viable solution. SO we looked at more street bike specific solutions. The cruisers just don't work for me. After so many years of working over the front end the riding position of a cruiser style just throws all the red flags for me. Can't do it. The more sporting oriented bike were "OK" for me for a while, but being older now, I wanted more leg room and to be able to sit up once in a while. Also the leg room for a passenger wasn't comfortable. What was left was those bikes with "standard" seating positions. Bikes like the Suzuki Bandit, V-Storms, the Kawasaki ES series and the like.

I choose a V-Storm 650. My reasons were more along the lines of a more practical thought process than a fun and games one. What We have found is the V-Storm was a good choise. It handles well and the bike has enough cornering clearance and ground clearance for me to get an adrenalin rush once in a while. The power is adequate for what I want but isn't going to win any races. There is plenty of room for my wife and she's actually quite comfortable for an hour or so. Thats all we are going to do anyway so thats fine. The 55 mpg isn't a myth, its reality for most of our riding time. The brakes are more than enoug even when we are two up. Basically I am very pleseantly suprised with this bike.

NOW after having it a while there are a few comments. When I forst looked at one, my first thought was I wouldn't be caught dead on a bike looking like that! It grows on you. AND after living with it for a while you actually begin to LIKE the look. There is enough fairing to keep most of you dry in the rain. We have a lot of rain here. I commute to work with this bike and the only thing getting wet are my feet. I really like the fuel injection and how EASY it is to start requardless of weather conditions. Just push the button and go. I really like the hydraulic preload adjuster for the rear. I can crank it up for my wife and back for me real time. I also like the rear "rack" as it has allowed me to run all kind of errands I had not anticipated when I bought this bike.

Bottom line? Its one of those thing...you KNOW your old when you like one of these...at least thats how it started. Now i just really appreciate the combination of fun and practicality for day to day life I have with this 2006 V-Storm. Enough power to have fun. Enough chassis to play. Enough fairing to ride during nasty weather. Enough room AND power for two up riding. Wonderful cost of ownership with the insurance and 55mpg average I am seeing. The perfect motorcycle for these times for me. I'm also glad I didn't get a true sport bike or a dirt bike oriented dual port. No regrets on this choise.

Hi,
I've been riding a Yamaha 650 Classic, but am looking for something a little sportier with a little more performance. However, I'm a woman, 5'4", 110 lbs. and I am concerned the sv650 may be a little too high, and/or top heavy. I plan on having the suspension lowered and I'm wondering how this will affect performance. Thanks.

Nothing really mechanical-wise, but lowering your suspension will mean less ground clearance which means you'll diminish the amount of lean you can perform... i.e. more likely to scrape pegs. Another thing you can do lower the bike some is to replace the seat. You can probably shave off an inch or so with a custom seat.

There's 2 models of sv650's. The sv650 which is the naked version. The sv650s (through 2007) which has the upper fairing and the sv650SF (2008) which is fully faired. I'm not sure what the weight difference is between each type although suzuki's website will have the dry weight listed. Having an '07 sv650s, I can tell you the weight isn't that bad as long as your moving. Puttering along around or under 3 mph is where you'll notice the weight. The extra weight means you'll also need to master clutching and throttle control at slow speeds. You definately don't want to stop the bike slightly leaned, you will probably drop it. A simple way to lower the weight somewhat significantly is to change the stock can to a Yoshimora or Two Bros. carbon or titanium slip-on. I went with a Two Bros. titanium m2 can and there was a major difference in the amount of weight lost as well as better low rpm response.

If you're looking for a more upright position, choose the sv650 over the sv650s/sf since the latter model has lower handle bars which will put you even at more of a forward lean position.

Have you thought of looking at the Kawasaki sports bikes? They're a couple of inches lower stock and they promote more of an upright riding position compared to the sv650. You could probably get more out of lowering a Kawasaki than an sv650. Not sure of the weight though with Kawasaki bikes.

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I would go with the suzuki gel set over a corbin or sargent, I have had 2 sv1000s and a sv650s, I tried the corbin and sargent, and neither were as good as the suzuki gel set on long rides. And the suzuki gel set is half the price of the aftermarket brands.

Actually, I've done several 3 hour long rides on the stock seat and haven't felt any discomfort. I do admit, I'm in the minority in regards to the stock seat being okey dokey.

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Hey, boys, and the two girls that probably read this, j/k ;-) OK, I'm looking to improve upon my 150cc (auto transm.) scooter, and I keep hearing on this super cool website that the SV650 is a good choice. I'm not getting a motorcycle to do wheelies or crazy shenanigans, I just like some good pick up and maneuverability through STUPID Cali traffic. I really don't want to settle on a 250 because I was tired of my 150 about a week after I rode it. I'm 5'7'', 130lb. I don't dig the look of the ninja style bikes, but I don't want to look manny on the big cruisers. Is this a nice combo? And, is the throttle crazy sensitive? Just don't want to over-do this, you know? Thanks!

The throttle's not crazy sensitive. There's an even, linear power distribution with this bike and it's really hard to pop a wheelie accidentally.

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I'd like some advice. I am interested in a standard, used bike in the 500-650cc range. I've seen some models listed as standard on some sites, and sport on others. Bikes I'm considering:
Suzuki sv650, Suzuki DL650 V-strom, Suzuki GS500F, Suzuki GSX 600 F Katana, Suzuki GSR600, Honda Nighthawk 750. What I most want to know is how upright the riding position is, comparatively. I'm a new rider, 5'9'', 155 lbs. I'd welcome any suggestions/comments on the models above, or suggestions about other bikes. But again, I'm most interested in finding out the relative seating positions of these bikes.
Thanks!

I'm only familiar with a couple of those models, but the sv650 while more upright than its sv650s/sf brothers, is still a pretty agressive forward leaning rider position. The GSX600 is also a forward leaning bike being in the sport bike class. Not sure about the gs500f. If you want a sports bike but one with a more natural upright riding position, maybe look at a ninja 500.

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I like the riding position of my GS500f. It is more forward than a standard or cruiser but not as far forward as my buddy's R6. I really think it is the best of both worlds. You are forward enough to help with the wind but not so far that you are riding on your wrists.

i'm considering a sv650. At 6'2 220 and a little riding experience on a borrowed bike in the past should i consider a taller bike & something w/ more power or should the sv650 fit me well enough?

I'm thinking that being able to go 80MPH in 4th @ ~9K RPMS or if you prefer hitting 135MPH in 6th @ ~10K RPMS would be plenty enough power. Redline on the sv650 is around 11+K RPMS. The fact that you weigh 220 lbs. isn't going to decrease the power, torque, and top speed of the sv650 that much.

Now, the question about a taller bike is more of a valid question, but I don't think that the sv650 being 31in - 32in seat height is too small for you. But if you feel that you'd be more comfortable on a taller bike, look at some dual sports. But for everyday commuting, riding the sv650 will deliver you more than enough power.

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Thanks for the response.

As for power, I guess I worry about growing out of the bike quickly and whishing I'd gotton something else. Either way, it's not a big concern.

I was glad to hear that you think I'll fit well on the sv650. I think that is the bike for me. I sat on one and it felt like I was sitting very low. I guess that is just the way it is supposed to be or perhaps I ought to go sit on a few more bikes in a short period of time to get a better comparison.

Yes. Always try to sit on as many bikes as you can. The only way to be truly sure if you feel comfortable on a particular bike or not. (-:

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I have given up on getting the ninja 250 because they are sold out everywhere in Georgia. I am a new beginner rider, I got a call from a motorshop who suggested the 2005 SV650 which i think is a pretty hot looking sport bike. I am 5'0 120lbs, do you think this bike would be to big for me to handle? i am going to go look at it today. I really want a bike, one to save on the almost $400 a month in gas I spend a month and two because I have always wanted one and grew tired of riding on the back as a passenger.

It is a heavier bike than the ninja250. The dry weight on an sv650 is a round 400 lbs. I'm not saying you're gonna drop it, but I dropped mine twice the first 2 days. all at pretty much a stopped position though. I'm also guessing you're going to need to have some mods done to it to drop the seat height as well since at your height, weight, and the weight of the bike, the sv650 is not something you wanna try to balance on your tippy-toes. If you do decide to go with the sv650, get frame sliders so if you do drop your bike at a really slow speed or from a stopped position, the frame sliders will take the impact. As a first bike at your height and weight, I would seriously suggest getting a used ninja250 or some other 250cc bike instead. But being on the smaller size doesn't mean you can't learn on an sv650 bike. There's a girl I know who works at the Dainese store in S.F. who's around your height who's riding an sv1000. I just wouldn't recommend it.

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I went to the bike shop and of course i fell in love with the bike but you are right...it would have to be dropped about 4 inches for me and it is a little heavy...the motor rep did advise a ninja 250 would be a great starter bike but unforunately I can't find one to save my life...I have called around to every store in Georgia and no one has any

Well does it have to be new? I'm sure there's gotta be people selling/upgrading their old ones...

Could the sales person give you any time estimations of stock? And does the sales person have your contact info if they do get stock? Also, if you're really, really serious about getting the bike new, you could plunk down a small deposit or something to show the dealer you're a serious buyer...

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However I would love the new 2008 ninja 250 but I will take anything from 2004 and up the problem is alot of people on craiglist (that's where I have been looking) they know that they are sold out so they are selling them more than what they are worth. The MSRP on a 2008 is $3,499 and a ninja 2004 ninja i was looking at he was selling it for $3,000. REgardless it is easier for me to finance because i dont' have the cash and the dealership states that they wont have any ninjas until early 2009 with a deposit and i refuse to wait that long. I did find one dealership that stated with a deposit i could probably have it by Nov. but I want it sooner than later like yesterday if you get my drift. You think you can recommend any other beginner bikes out there besides the ninja 250 that have the sporty look?

Hyosung 250 maybe? There's a Hyosung review on this site. It's a sporty looking 250cc bike. I think six-shooter rides one as well, maybe not the 250, but I remember him saying he rides a Hyosung.

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In May of 2000 I purchased a brand new SV650 from my local dealer, as my first bike. I had passed the MSF in April and was looking for a Nighthawk 750 as my bike, but the ones I looked at were pretty well used. A friend suggested the SV, since it was getting such great reviews. I bought it and rode it gently until I got more comfortable with it, which took around 2-4 weeks. Riding on the interstate for the first time I thought I was going to get blown off the back of the bike! Too funny.

8 years later, I rode the same SV to work this morning. I LOVE THIS BIKE! Suzuki has an absolute winner here, as those of you who own one, already know. I upgraded the front forks the first year with cartridge emulators, and that improved the handling over bumps. The next year I put a GSXR rear shock on the bike, and that really transformed the handling of the bike. The twisties are a lot more fun now! One of my most immediate upgrades was the seat. The stock seat was horrid. I purchased a Corbin and it has worked amazing since. I have put over 950 miles on my SV in one day and wasn't sore at all with that seat. The stock seat, I was sore after about 100 miles.

I have over 45,000 miles on the bike now, and the biggest issue I have had with it is that the voltage regulator went out on me, and so the battery wasn't charging properly. Replaced that with a new one and all is good again. It is a fantastic bike that you won't outgrow. If I were to buy the SV today, I would spend the extra money on ABS, just to add that bit of security on the street, esp. when it is wet.

My garage has two other bikes too. A 2001 KLR650 and a 2001 BMW R1150GS. The KLR is a blast as it is pretty light (relative) and fun to go through the forest roads on. I lusted for the BMW ever since I started riding and finally bought one last year. I think the VStrom is a great bike, except the alternator output is wimpy and can't push heated gear well. The BMW has a huge alternator and it makes my winter commute much more comfortable. I am looking at a DRZ400S for an even lighter dual sport or a 2008+ Ninja 250 since they look like a kick to ride and get great mileage.

Miss LadyRed, phone up dealers in Alabama or Mississippi for a new Ninja 250, they may have some in stock, or have some coming. I understand your desire for a new one. The update they did really made the bike much more desirable, for only $500 more. 17" wheels are worth it, so you can find sporty rubber for the bike.

Ride safe,
John Eickerman
Seattle WA

i'm in between the sv650s and Hyosung 250 for my first bike. I looked at the ninjas but want a more aggressive riding position (both these bikes use clip-ons i think but are definitely lower and more agressive seating). Anyway these 2 seem to be the only 2 entry level that aren't upright from my research or are there other options i should look at? Siting on a ninja 250 feels like i'm on my grandmothers huffy.

Question is, which would you recommend for the first bike? I know about all the reliability problems with the Hyosung but maybe 2008 is their year and hoping they are working out the kinks finally. As long as the dealer stands behind it i'm ok with a few issues here and there. Some ppl say learn on a lower CC bike like a 250 and you'll be better off for it, others say you get sick of it after 3 months so go with something w/ a little more power like the 650. Part of me says start with the 250 then i can jump up to a sportier 600 after 6 months or so.

oh and i'm 6'2 200lbs, with some (little) experience on cruising bikes, harleys, honda shadow, etc...

Unless anyone can tell me definitively that the following, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyosung_GT250, is bullsh*t, I'd pick the sv650 over this any day of the week, if these bikes were my only 2 choices. Why is a 250cc bike heavier than the sv650 (370 lbs. vs. 363 lbs.) ? I'm assuming that's dry weight for 250r... Other than the weight, the known clutch cable issue would steer me away from the hyosung...

*Disclosure: I ride an sv650s.

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closer you will see that those problems were solved in 2007 so New '08 models should be much better. I'm no longer interested in this bike after sitting on one at the dealership. More of a sport/naked guy than rocket man, it's just not comfortable to me to have to lean over like that.

1. I'm thinking of getting a 2003-2004 SV650 with no fairing. It will be my first motorcycle, but I'm pretty good on a bicycle and aced my MSF test. Any thoughts on whether the SV would be too much for me?

2. To the guy looking at a Hyosung or SV, it sounds like you're looking to buy new. If you plan to upgrade within a year or so, don't buy new and eat all of that depreciation! Also, until Hyosung gets a rep for having turned their reliability around (like Hyundai has) I'd recommend staying away. Don't speculate on reliability when looking at the specific model's reliability history is the best indicator.

Hi, great artical and I'm glad to read all the reviews on it. It's really making me consider it.... hopefully I can get a few opinions.
I'm a 5'6" 116lbs girl... I know a lot of you are gonna laugh at me, but I'm in the middle of the MSF course and I seem to be doing good! Do you think that the SV is too much for me? I really like them, but I don't want a bike I can't handle...

The SV650, like many of you, is shaping up to be likely my first bike. I'm out of cash for this year, but hopefully '09 will be the year I get one. I was originally checking out the Ninja 250R, but I have my reasons why posted in the Review 1 of 4 comments for that bike here. In short, I was too tall (only 6'1"!) and my knees couldn't tuck into the fuel tank. I was much more comfortable on the SV. However, I haven't ridden on yet pending purchasing a helmet and jacket at least; but I have a question (maybe for mega) about the shifter pedal. Can they be adjusted to be more parallel to the ground and the foot peg? I noticed this compared to other bikes like the Kawasaki 650R-- the shifter pedals on those bikes are all nearly horizontal and inline with the foot peg, making the amount of twist I have to stretch my ankle through to get under the pedal for shifting up.

On the 650 at least, it's angled down something like maybe 35-40 degrees and it's a LOT more tilt to get a boot under to shift up. I'm a complete newb and didn't ask the sales guy either (they'd probably say anything to sell), but can that be adjusted or brought up higher? I also noticed it on a Hayabusa as well, so it must be a design thing. I didn't check any of their other bikes to see what those setups were like.

Thanks,
Charger

Sorry. Just saw this post. AFAIK, suzuki doesn't make a replacement rear set that's different from what you get stock. There are replacement rear sets that are adjustable. I just don't know if they're adjustable in the way you describe. I think the only adjustability is in the distance from the gear shift to the foot peg.

Give a looksie though. There are plenty of aftermarket rear sets it seems....

http://www.google.com/search?&rls=en&q=sv650+rear+sets&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

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1. Passed motorcycle safety course
2. Have helmet and clothing with body armor
3. Need a first bike.

Lots of friends are offering advise and I'm having a hard time with what is obviously 2 completely different bikes.
I'm 6'4" 200 and the dual sport is appealing from a seat height perspective. The SV 650 is appealing due to overwhelming majority as a good first bike.
I live in San Francisco and plan on using for city and some country driving, avoiding highways at least initially.
Any and all thoughts appreciated.
Thanks!

i am a new rider myself who purchased my first bike (a 2000 suzuki sv650 naked) a little over a week ago. I can recommend the SV650 to any new rider for a number of reasons: It has a comfortable riding position for my height (5'11") and is easy to manage while having more power than ill ever actually need. Comparing it to the DRZ 400 SM however, theyre two completely different bikes in two completely different genres. Given your height and the fact that you seem to have some desire to have an off-road capable bike, an adventure tourer such as the DL650 V-Strom might be just up your alley. It uses the same engine as the SV650 and can still handle quite sporty but has a riding position more suited to taller riders. It also uses suspension components that don't cringe as much at the thought of riding over anything other than well maintained pavement. It is heavier however by quite a bit and is a lot more top heavy though (just like all off-road bikes are) which may be hard for a new rider.

Make no mistake the V-Strom is not a true off-road bike. It is an "adventure tourer" a genre of motorcycle that can be described best as a more street oriented side of the dual purpose spectrum. There won't be any fire trails or forests in your future with it, but you'll do fine on dirt roads and things like that.

Based on your height I would definately say that you should strongly consider the V-Strom 650 as well. Considering the fact that one of the bikes you're considering is a pure street bike, and the other is an off-road oriented dual sport, something in the middle might not be a bad idea.

I recently bought an 07 Yamaha FZ6, after many years of not riding bikes, and many months of shopping.

I bought the Yamaha because I got a better deal than I could've on a SV650, I liked the looks of the Yamaha a bit better, and the seating position on the FZ6 was more comfortable for me.

One thing I did not shop was the insurance difference - the FZ6 costs me about 45 bucks a month to insure, FWIW.

That being said, I LOVE the Fizzer - the underseat exhaust is a nice selling point, too - the bike is incredible.

But I can't wait to run into some SV650 people on the road, chat them up, and compare rides, because I think it's an awesome bike, too.

No matter what you ride, keep the rubber side down! :)

Im gonna buy a Suzuki Bandit SV 650 year 2000 and I am a total newbie in motors except scooter 50cc.

I would like to know if SV 650 year 2000 will be good for long distance trips and will I be ready in 3 or 4 weeks to go for a long trip like 500 km?

Answer appreciated ,.

Ciao

I passed my MSF and got my M1 here in CA a couple of weeks ago. I purchased my 2007 SV650 from Marin Cycleworks (great guys!). Since I wasn't about to ride it home on the freeway, the sales guy agreed to ride it to his house in Novato, about 12 miles. I picked it up at his house the next day did about 19miles...50mins of hell while in town, but once I was out on the backroads, it was fun and not too shabby.

First time on the SV650 and only the 2nd time on bike in general, so it was a bit touchy. Night and day compared to the Kawasaki Eliminators at the MSF class versus my new SV. I dropped it for the first time going 2mph while make a low speed tight turn on a street. Only a few scuff marks but a big bruised ego!! Took me a good 5 mins to get my thoughts together and basically start over.

I picked the SV650 because I've read up on it a lot as a decent beginner bike, and I got a good deal on it. In some ways, I think it maybe a bit too much bike in terms of power for me as a newbie, but I think I just need more practice. There is a local high school with a big parking lot where I'm going to practice this weekend.

I was looking at the FZ6 and a local Honda dealer had a 2006 599 in stock. I lower price on the SV650 and I felt it would be a better choice for me.

I've only had about 1.5 of riding time so far on it, so I just need more practice. I got good on the Eliminator because it was about 9+ hours of riding time in two days. It's the starting from a dead stop and low speed turns is what I need to practice along with emergancy serves and stops.

I've heard a lot about the SV-650 as a nice bike for beginners. I plan on getting a bike within the next year and a half or so. I want to do a lot of research, by the way thanks a lot for your insight and help. After reading an articl in a Sport Bikes mag, I reallly like the look of the GSX 650 F. Some say that it's just as good for the beginner as the SV. It is a heavier bike; 10 pounds lighter than the Hayabusa. What is your opinion about this bike. I know it looks sweet to me. Thanks again.

I forgot to say that I am going to play it smart and take the MSF class becore I buy anything. Also, I am about 6 feet 225 pounds. Considering that this bike is an inline 4 instead of the v twin, would this still be a good starter for me? Thanks.

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I've been enjoying everyone's comments and had a question for those more in-the-know than I.
Quick bg:
Exp: Roughly 1 year (about 6k miles).
Bike: 1982 Yamaha Seca 400 (excellent starter bike - ugly and reliable - much like myself).
Age: 41
Height/Weight: 5'10" 150lbs.
Sex: M
Geography: Wheaton, IL (suburb of Chicago) USA.

I've been considering a used SV650 for a while now and think it's a perfect next step for me, as I feel I've outgrown the 400. There are some nice 650S (sport versions) on craigslist around here presently but I really don't want anything with such a serious forward-lean. Is installing a more standard type handlebar on a SV650S a silly idea or is it a reasonable and viable modification? I've been keeping my eyes open for a non "S" version but they are few and far between (and get snatched up quickly). Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

You might want to try a set of risers on the SV650, which may help bring the handlebars up and back enough to aid your comfort. You might also want to consider looking in WI. Overall, you're not too far from there and you may find what you're looking for just across the border. In fact, my boss had been looking for a used SV650 and couldn't find one in Chicago at all. He looked a little further out and found (and bought) one within a week, in great condition, at the price he wanted. It's just one more option to consider.

I was considering this bike as well, but overall, I felt the SV650 is a better choice. The GSX650F is a carbureted, it should be easier to maintain and you could probably work on it yourself. I'm 5'7", 200lbs, and I felt the bike was too heavy for me. The SV650 is about 380lbs dry and the seat height worked for my 30" inseam.

It's a sporting looking bike with "Standard" riding position so you'd blend in a bit. The price is pretty good as well.

I don't know...I ruled it out after learning how much it weighed and to me, it was a concern. And I wanted a bike with a bit newer technology behind it.

BTW....do take the rider course first before anything else. It is a smart idea.

Does anyone have any idea as to the longevity of the SV 650 engine? Am leaning toward buying a used one soon and need to know the life span.

Can someone tell me what the difference is between the SV650 and the SV650SF? Looks like the same bike on paper.

To answer the question above, the SV650SF has the lower fairings which come standard in the U.S. for 2008. In other countries such as Sweden, this is not the case.

I bought an '07 SV650S in May of this year as my first bike, and haven't had any regrets so far. I've had no prior experience on a motorcycle so that was a factor in my overall decision, but I was also worried about buying something too small for my first bike. I'm glad I went with the SV over a smaller bike in the end. Since I have become accustomed to it's power and handling characteristics, I am really having a lot of fun on it.

Hi, I've been looking around for an sv650 for about 1.5 months now in the Boston region and finally found one. It's a 2002 yellow sv650 with 3,700 miles on it. The owner says it has only been dropped once and there is a small ding on the gas tank. Other than that the bike is in great shape and has been taken care of. He's asking $3,500 for it and I'm curious if that is a good price or if that is a little high for a 2002 model. Thanks for the help!

Here is the link to the bike:
Suzuki sv650

I am considering quite a few bikes for when i get one next year, here they are.
Suzuki SV650, Kawasaki Ninja 650r, Kawasaki Versys, Triumph Street Triple, Yamaha FZ6, and 2-3 year old 600cc crotch rockets. I know everyone will hate on the rockets but I want that i know i won't get sick. Why even bother with the 250r when my CAR which is a slow piece of junk can beat it to 60. Cycle World said in its Fun and Frugal article zero to 60 on the 250r is 7.6 seconds. So what do you think i should get.

PS I am 17 and have to pay for everything. No I will not ring out the throttle, no matter what i get.

Bought my 08 SV 650 in May and have loved it. I've only had dirt bikes before this and completed the MSF class on a Buell Blast. The Suzuki has decent power and looks great! I have the naked version in graphite grey and get compliments on it all the time. The only minor complaint I would have is the hardness of the seat which seems to be a recurring theme on the message board... In that vein, does anyone have a recomendation for a good aftermarket seat? The one I saw online looked a little too out of place for me. I think it is quite possible by the way to avoid laying your bike down as long as you're careful. I'm only 5'7" and 150 lbs and have never even come close. I figure I just paid 6 grand for the thing, so I'm going to try and be careful with it! All in all, it's been a good, smooth, GREAT looking bike and I would recomend it to anyone who's looking for a solid motorcycle to buy as their first...

My first bike was a SV650 (1999) naked. I rode it for 4 months and really, really enjoyed it but had to sell because I financed it out of my expected bonus, which came two months late. The only criticism I had was the throttle being very abrupt, which can be unnerving at times for a beginners. I see others have also noted this, and refer to it as the "on/off switch". I believe this problem does not exist at all on models from 2003 onwards, which are fuel injected. Also it took a while to warm up on cold mornings (also sorted with fuel injection). The good thing about the on-off switch is that it taught me accurate throttle control. Do not mistake sharp throttle for uneven power delivery. The power delivery is extremely user friendly, I can also compare it to a turbo diesel car, with the decent accelleration possible without having to shift through the gears.

Now that I got my bonus, I am all set to get another SV, fuel injected for the abovementioned reasons. I am wondering. Since I am still a relative beginner, will the V-Strom be a challenge because of it being a bit top heavy? I like the V-Strom for it's touring ability, comfort etc, for the odd trips, even though the motorcycle would be used mostly for commute. There is also one particular patch on my journey home where a better bump absorbing bike would be nice, though not a necessity. I am 1.87 metres which I think is a little over 6 feet. I wonder if the top heavyness will have a signifficant impact on low speed handling. The most scary part of my journey to work used to be the last bit, in the parking garage. I am four floors down, which require me to negiotiate sharp turns with slippery floors. I can however ride that part as slowly as I choose, if it helps. Will the V-Strom be signifficantly worse at this than an SV650?

I believe the DL650 is a little bit detuned relative to the SV650, appearently for mid range power (not that the SV650 is lacking in that department!).
For some reason it seems this detune also adds to better fuel consumption, even though the bike is heavier.

Any comments on how easy the DL650 (V-Strom) is to ride compared to an SV650 for a relative beginner? Does the fact that the former is more top heavy mean that it's more trickery on low speed parking garage manufers? Any comments greatly appreciated. Thanks

hello from a short man in the uk. I have had 2 SV650S's in the last 3 years, the first was stolen and wrecked after I spent a lot of money having it set to my height 5ft.4in. The cost of suzuki parts in England are out of this world and so it means that to lower the seat height that way is out of cost. I've had the seat cut and dropped 1inch but could do with maybe another 2 inches. Could anybody help???

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