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Yeah, its a very popular myth… just like how not wearing a seat belt will throw you clear of an accident. or how not wearing a (full-face) helmet helps you avoid accidents in the first place; something my dad tells me– He wears 3/4 helmets and drives a Harley. He tried full-face helmets10 years ago but thought they blocked his vision and muted sound thus making it more likely to cause an accident. Complete BS. He tried to let me use his helmets when I first started to learn how to ride– I went out and bought a full-face.
just think about it like this… If the pressure of something going ONTO your foot is enough to bend steel to the point where it amputate your toes… just imagine that pressure on your foot directly. I guarantee you the force to amputate your toes with out a steel toe is much much less than the contrary.
Leather, Bones, and flesh < Steel and Leather, Bones, and Flesh.
If someone’s toes are amputated with a steel toe– his toes would be cut off regardless.TheAbomb12ParticipantIn my opinion, The Ninja 650 is a great starter bike– in the same league as the SV650 (In fact I think its more comfortable, and many feel its more forgiving than the Suzuki)
However. AVOID BUYING BRAND NEW. you have a very good chance of dropping your bike, so better to buy used so you don’t have to worry so much about it. Unfortunately there are not very many used Ninja 650s, while the SV650 will have plenty of used bikes on the market.
TheAbomb12ParticipantSteel toes being more damaging than regular shoes is a complete myth. Some people might have had a freak accident and had amputated toes while wearing steel toe boots; but let me assure you the damage done when wearing a shoe with no steel would make your foot look like spaghetti.
They did it all on mythbusters, no matter how you try it– steel toe protects way better than regular shoes.
shifter feel is affected though– but I guess that all depends on the design of the shoe.
TheAbomb12Participantget a Ninja 650.
It looks slick, Has plenty of power, yet is very forgiving for new riders. I too had a bit of experience riding motor vehicles before I got the 650– but I really feel its a perfect balance between Power and controlability as a first bike.
TheAbomb12Participanthis lower mpg could be due to him not shifting early enough– ( a common newbie problem)
TheAbomb12ParticipantYou should be fine with the weight thing…
As for the price, I’m sure you can find the right price if you can keep an eye out in the used market– alot of people buy the 250s a few months to a year and then upgrade for more CCs.
I happen to live in California, and those are the prices I see for OTD.
You can get a used Ninja 500 for around $3000 easy. It has plenty of power too
I got my 2006 Ninja 650 for a little under $5000; the 650s haven’t been around as long so they usually are a little higher priced.I just got my ninja 650 today though, and its actually very controllable. In fact, I’m surprised BBM hasn’t reviewed it yet. I haven’t ridden a 2008 ninja 250 yet, but the 650 has plenty of power for the freeway AND is really easy to ride. The only drawback with the 650 is the higher price in relation to the 250.
TheAbomb12Participantand I have to say I’m really glad I got the 650… I just got it today (I just got back home 5 minutes ago). Got it used with low miles.
It actually is REALLY easy to ride, the clutch is much easier to handle than the cruisers I rode (especially on first from a stop); Turning in low speeds is easier; its surprisingly comfortable. While Cruisers offer a really nice laid back ride, there is something about the ergonomics about the Ninja 650 that just *clicks* for me– the riding position is just right.
I really don’t feel like it has too much power at all; The throttle is really smooth and never did I feel like it could get over my head. although I have yet to crank the throttle all the way— so perhaps if you’re not careful or too liberal with the throttle, it could get over your head.
TheAbomb12ParticipantI just bought a used ninja 650 (my first bike btw).. and I was amazed at how easy it handles. Its the first “sport” or sport-standard I have ever driven and I actually thought it was pretty easy- I was able to jump on and a Matter of a few minutes I was really comfortable with turning.
The bikes I previously ridden before was a Kawasaki Eliminator 125 during the MSF course; and my dad’s Honda Shadow (1100cc) which I actually drove for about 200 miles (the reason why I took the MSF course was to get a license so my father and I could take a trip).
Now keep in mind that the Honda is really heavy; but in the 200 miles that I drove the shadow, I am Still more comfortable in low speed turning with the 20 miles I just put on today on my Ninja.
TheAbomb12ParticipantI’ve never meet anyone with 60 lbs of variable weight; you should be just fine if you’re on the lower end of that weight range.
The 250 definitely have enough power for around town on the streets. I also hear the 2008+ models are much more capable of going on the freeway; however, I wouldn’t recommend one if you will be doing MOST of your driving on the freeway. At freeway speeds the RPMs will be much much higher and a lot of freeway use will lead to more wear and tear on the engine. Otherwise, the power will be just fine.
Expect to pay 5000-5500 out the door on a new 2008 ( or 2009) model- they are in very very high demand. Used ones may be a little easier to find, but command only a little under the new price.
There are also the Ninja 500 and 650– although the 650 looks and feels much closer to the 250 and is definitely more comfortable than the 500(imo). Both of those bike will definitely have enough power.
If you do go the cruiser route, I wouldn’t get anything less than 650-750ccs
TheAbomb12ParticipantI am interested in the review as well…
I’m just about to pull the trigger on a 2006 ninja 650 as my first bike
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