2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250 Review Part 1 of 4

The 2008 Ninja 250 is the bike everyone is talking about this year since it has received a MAJOR face lift from the engineers at Kawasaki. Best Beginner Motorcycles was lucky enough to catch up with Gary Jaehne, the author of Sportbiking- The Real World: The Advanced Riders Handbook and Sportbiking - The Real World 2: Rider and Bike Tuning Handbook. Gary Recently purchased one of the '08 Ninja 250s and has written a 4 part ride report of his experience.

The 2008 Ninja 250 is the bike everyone is talking about this year since it has received a MAJOR face lift from the engineers at Kawasaki. Best Beginner Motorcycles was lucky enough to catch up with Gary Jaehne, the author of Sportbiking - The Real World: The Advanced Riders Handbook and Sportbiking - The Real World 2: Rider and Bike Tuning Handbook. Gary Recently purchased one of the '08 Ninja 250s and has written a 4 part ride report of his experience. Part 1 - First 50 Mile Ride Part 2 - Ridden in Anger Part 3 - Looking for Nits Part 4 - Full Anger Mode & a Miracle

'08 Ninja 250 – First 50 Mile Ride; "Real World" Impressions

Just got home from logging the first 50 miles on one of the new 3rd-Generation ('08) Ninja 250s (that I just took ownership of thanks to a surprise from an incredibly cool Wife!), and decided to try to do a quick brain-dump of my first impressions of the bike. First impressions are generally some of the most valuable moments in getting unbiased and accurate feedback. The combination of having not yet seen any full-blown road tests of the '08 Ninja 250 show up in print within any of the mainstream motorcycle publications, not seeing anyone locally post a real world impression of one yet on the forum, and the recognition that few (if any) of the eventual magazine testers will have roots as deep into these little bikes as myself (83K miles, and roadracing)…… I decided to put those thoughts down here for anyone that has an interest in this bike. Read on, or skip ahead to the next thread, as fits for you. In an effort to provide an effective method for readers be able to skim through the write-up to the key elements that interest them about the bike, I decided to break things down by key elements, and then expound on each with impressions from this real world first ride. All of the evaluations will be based on a premise of "comparison", with the reference point being the previous generation (1988-2007) Ninja 250.


What item(s) most positively impressed?

1) The engine – torque/midrange 2) The "firmness" (no bottoming out) of the suspension 3) The precision and smoothness of the transmission's shifting

What item(s) were less then perfect?

1) The "firmness" of the suspension (less forgiving on bumpy backroads) 2) More wrist weight on the handlebars (extended miles riding comfort)


ENGINE:

The press info that's showed up from Kawasaki has stressed the changes to the engine being focused on "increased midrange". Reading this same shtick in multiple places I'd been left with the impression it was just a marketing way of trying to draw attention away from a potential loss of horsepower that the more heavily smogged '08 engine was going to produce. From a first ride, first impression perspective, I've got to give the engineers a "thumbs-up", and say …… you guys weren't blowing smoke! While having to recognize this is only 250cc's of engine we're talking about ….. I've got to say that this new bike definitely has excellent "grunt" for such a small displacement. There's no question that this characteristic will be a huge plus to making the bike even more user-friendly for newer riders. The official recommended "break-in" procedure specifies keeping the engine below 4,000 RPM for the first 500 miles. Say what??? Guess what speed 4,000 RPM is, in 6th gear? 36 MPH!! OK …… sure, I'll ride the bike for the first 500 miles never going faster then 36 MPH at any time, and that'll be just fine on the normal public roads …… right! Today's first 50 mile ride on the bike was done in a nice loop on some of the less traveled twisty backroads in the Santa Cruz mountains, here in Northern California. Despite the total impracticality of the 4K break-in engine speed, I did consciously keep from revving the engine any higher then was realistically necessary. Keeping the engine lower in RPM then my normal Ninja 250 riding adventures, gave me a perfect opportunity to sample this "mid-range" that the Kawasaki engineers were claiming. Today's route included climbing some steep and twisty uphills too. The ability to maintain a steady pull, despite the engine working in a much lower then normal (for spirited riding on one of these little bikes) RPM range, was quite impressive! It almost felt like I had an extra hundred CC'sof engine doing the work. Cool stuff. I can't comment on the overall power output of the bike at this point, having not yet taken the engine anywhere close to the RPM range (10-13K) where that happens on these little 250cc machines. Once the engine has reached the broken-in phase, I'll post a follow-up with impressions on that aspect. Stay tuned.

SUSPENSION:

The first perk is that the bike now comes with a 5-position spring "preload" adjuster for the rear shock. That'll be great for allowing riders to optimize the geometry of the bike for their weight. At 170 lbs, I found position #3 (1 is stock) to be a good starting point. The two major shortcomings of the previous generation Ninja 250's suspension, was the easy "bottoming out" of the front forks (due to REALLY soft springs), and the total "pogo-stick" bouncing behavior the exhibited due to nearly zero rebound damping. The '08 bike is downright "firm" in the spring category; front and rear. The stock rebound damping is actually quite controlled too. The front forks rebound is pretty much right on the money (for an old-school technology damping rod design), with the rear shock having a bit too much rebound …… if anything. On today's brief first-ride, I included a route that covered some of the very tight and bumpy backroads that we make part of our regular weekend rides. The added "firmness" of the new bike's suspension made things feel a lot more like being mounted atop any of the current crop of hardcore sportbikes, then the rather "plush" feeling of the past generation Ninja 250's soft suspenders. A bit of a double-edged sword in this case, as what will make the bike better for pushing a bit harder under ideal road/track conditions (smooth, faster, and minimal bumps), becomes a bit of a handicap in keeping rubber to pavement on some of the rougher roads that exist in the real world. During the last stint of today's ride I did the run down Felton Empire Road. A good portion of this road is paved with a relatively fresh layer of exceptionally well groomed asphalt, with very few bumps. It was on this section that I first got to appreciate where the new bike's suspension will shine!The bike is definitely in its element on such pavement conditions, and will likely be able to be ridden quite quickly through the turns when the pavement conditions are right (as in this form of asphalt at a track).

HANDLING:

Conditions during today's brief ride were not ideal, with the roadways still having a lot of damp spots from recent rains. The road conditions, combined with virgin rubber on the tires, engine break-in limitations, and "new bike syndrome", kept from getting a full feel for the bike's handling. Despite that, some general feedback on how the bike responded going into turns, reacted mid-corner, and delivered in making line adjustments was noted from the ride. The new bike seems to have better trail numbers then the previous generation being quite stable for such a small/light bike. I tried to deliberately induce some headshake on a few straights, to see how the bike would react. Was pleased to see that the bike exhibited a solid degree of self-centering of the steering; actively working to steady things back down very quickly after the deliberately induced wiggle. Despite the stability, the bike definitely was not slow steering. The combination of the bike's light weight and very narrow tires resulted in the little Ninja turning in with very little effort, and dropping right onto the requested line.

RIDER POSITION:

The feel of being on the two version Ninjas, and riding down the road, are quite different. I'd describe the feeling on the two bikes as: Previous generation:.................... Sitting "Down in the bike" (low CG) '08 version:................................ Sitting "On top of the bike" (more sportbike feeling) For low speed maneuvers and general control on rough roads, the low CG and seat height of the early generation bike is superior. The '08 model follows the lead of the more serious sportbikes of today, putting the rider more inline with the upper plane of the bike, which is a great position for carving up turns at higher speeds on good pavement. Good and bad …… depending on the application. For shorter riders, the older bike was better in this respect. One very noticeable difference I noted on the new bike, was the amount of weight that I felt on my wrists while riding. The seat to handlebar relationship on the older design machine had the bars sitting up significantly higher. The forearms, at least for about a 6 foot rider, were nearly horizontal while seated on the bike. On the '08 bike I find that my forearms have a bit of a downward slope to towards the grips, and I had to be more conscious of keeping from putting undesired weight forward on my wrists ….. especially when riding the steep downhill sections on today's ride. The more mainstream sportbike orientation of the bars (lower) on the new bike will likely serve as a plus for serious performance use; but will make extended hours in the saddle a little more fatiguingfor the more casual rider or commuter. A bit of a win-lose situation; depending on the rider.

TRANSMISSION:

The shifting on the previous generation Ninja 250 wasn't bad, but it definitely gave you a solid notice when it was being notched up and down between gears. Granted this bike is very new at this point, but the minimal foot pressure required to make gear changes, combined with a very precise feel when the next gear engaged, put a smile on my face.

CLUTCH:

One of the behaviors I'd gotten used to on the previous generation bike, was the "lurch" that was often experienced when dropping the bike from neutral into 1st gear …. especially when cold. It was an issue where the fiber and metal plates had a habit of wanting to not totally disconnect, despite the clutch being properly adjusted and pulled in fully. I was pleasantly surprised that the new bike clicked into 1st gear without so much as a nudge; despite the bike being barely warmed up in the garage before heading out. Nice improvement!

BRAKES:

Being in the early break-in phase, I'd consciously been easy on the brakes during today's short ride, to allow the pads/rotors to bed-in. During the last few miles of the ride I did experiment a little bit with firmer lever pressure. The bite of the front brake seemed solid for a single rotor/caliper equipped machine. At this point I'd have to rate them to be at least as good as the earlier generation, if not slightly improved.Being a "semi-wave" rotor design, and possibly a different compound in the pads, it's not unexpected that they might continue to surpass the previous generation bike's brakes, once I'm pushing them harder. The rear brake felt good, and not really anything noticeably different then the old bike. Rear brakes are more of a complementary braking tool, and the one on the new 250 seems more then up to the task. Decent "feel", which is important for a rear brake to be most effective.

SOUND/EXHAUST:

The catalytic equipped single muffler on the new bike is definitely a bit quieter then the twin-pipe generation machines. At idle this added quiet is most noticeable, with the tone and volume becoming more on par with the earlier bike once the RPM and throttle position increase a bit while riding. I really like the clean look of the single muffler. Kind of wish it were "black chrome" (instead of "shiny chrome"), as it'd blend in nicer with every other non-main color scheme painted item on the bike (swingarm, frame, forks, subframe, wheels, etc) that's done up nicely in a mean looking black theme.

WEIGHT/FEEL:

Though the spec sheets indicate around a 30 pound increase in weight for the '08 model, I suspect a portion of that was some under-rated numbers that the original bike may have been carrying around in the brochures for many years. Either way, the weight of the two version bikes didn't stand out as being different while riding. If anything, due to the higher placed seating position, it made the bike feel lighter …… due to it wanting to flick over to lean angle with less effort.

TIRES:

The OEM tire are Bridgestones, in a 110 size up front and a 130 on the rear, on 2.75" wide and 3.50" wide rims; respectively. Though being rubber from a current crop of tire offerings from Bridgestone, they are the older technology "bias-ply" style (versus the state-of-the-art "radials" seen on the high-end sportbikes today). The combination of the conservative pace on today's first 50 mile break-in ride, and the road conditions, didn't provide a real chance to find out how good or bad the stock tires perform. I will say that I didn't have a single moment of slippage, and did see that the area of the tread surface that was used had been within about ½" of the edges (front and rear) by the time I got home. I found them to be quite decent skins (for OEM rubber) for most riders use.

INSTRUMENTATION:

In this area it was a bit of a gain/lose situation. The gain was the addition of an analog fuel level gauge (which I like!). The loss is the absence of an actual water temperature gauge, being replaced by an idiot-light. The other noticeable change in the instrument cluster is the tachometer; with the difference being the much smaller size on the '08 machine. On the earlier generation bike the tachometer and speedometer were equal in size; sitting side-by-side. On the '08 bike the tachometer is significantly smaller then the speedo,and tucked off to the leftside of the cluster. I guess the thinking is that for safety, a rider should be most focused on their speed, and hence the larger sized gauge for that purpose (?). As a result of the reduced size of the tachometer, the spacing between 1,000 RPM increments is resultantly much closer together. Being able to quickly glance down and immediately determine the current RPM of the engine is a bit more challenging. Not really a problem, but just a bit of a step backwards from that aspect in user-friendliness of the old bike.

FEATURES:

Again a bit of a win-lose situation. The loss is the presence of a center-stand on the bike. Though it added weight, and was a potential ground clearance limiting item, it did make tire changes and bike washings a less daunting task. One of the additions being the welded-on swingarm spool mounting bosses on the back of the new bike. The hole size of the bosses is identical to many other mainstream sportbikes (the ones off my ZX-10R fit right on!), which makes getting spools an easy task. The spring preload adjuster on the rear shock was already mentioned in the suspension section, but definitely shouldn't be missed when referencing nice added "features" to the '08 bike.

QUALITY:

Before ever taking the bike out for its first mile of riding, I spent a number of hours going over ever nut-n-bolt in ensuring the everything was setup right. I was impressed with the way that everything was cleanly designed an put together. Things are in the right places, and well thought out. When riding the bike, I was impressed with the very "solid feel" that I got from it. Nothing rattled, shaked, or in any way felt out of sorts, despite navigating some rather bumpy roads today.The front and back of the bike felt very "connected"; with neither end moving from side-to-side independently. I guess it just felt like there was more bike underneath me, then what would be expected of economy priced, entry-level 250cc machine.

APPEARANCE:

Last but not least. Regardless of how good a bike performs in every other category, if looking at it parked …… while walking up to it to go for ride ……. doesn't "move you", there's not much chance of true love ever developing in the relationship. The new '08 Ninja 250 has that covered in spades for me! Looking at the little "Bright-Green Ninja Machine" sitting up on the rear stand in the garage, under the lights, is a pretty sight to see! The designers of the bodywork and ergos on the new bike did an awesome job in coming up with this new package. The clean look of the bodywork and paint, thanks to a near total lack of the radical poser graphics that have showed up on some machines over the years, is all business. I swear that from a pure "looks" perspective, in my opinion, this new '08 Ninja 250 takes a lot of the other changed-for-'08 mainstream, bigger-bore sportbikes to school. A bike who's looks definitely deserve the right to wear the "Ninja" namesake.


CONCLUSION – RIDE #1:

What's my overall first-ride impression of the new '08 Ninja 250? I was impressed! I couldn't wait to get a chance to ride the bike "in anger" (means to its potential) in the future.

Comments

I was considering this bike as my first starter bike. The price is in the perfect range for me and from this review and everything else I have read up on a Ninja 250 is the absolute perfect starter bike.

Though I cannot find really any info on for the range of height/weight for this bike. I am about 6'2" just under 250lb. Is this bike right for me?

I cannot test drive the bike from the dealership I have been contacting about it [only have my permit] but I was able to take a look and have a feel for the bike.

It felt comfortable at least to the best of my knowledge comfortable but I don't want to get it out on the road after signing the papers and realizing I'm too big for the bike.

Gary (the person who wrote the review) is about 6 feet tall as well, but i'm not sure of his weight. If it lugged him around, i'm sure it could do fine for you. If you are really worried about it then maybe go for a ninja 500, but i'm pretty sure the 250 could handle it.

Ben
~Best Beginner Motorcycles Admin

I also would like to know the height and weight recomended for this bike I am 6'3" and 160 pounds. This would also be my first bike. I feel like I am in the same situation I cannot test ride it because I to only have my permit.

my height is 5 1 weigh 58 is it Kawasaki ninja 250 fit for me...or can u suggest what motorbike in 250 class suit to me?

Uhm age? 58 pounds is the weigh of like a 10 year old. The bike will probably be too tall for you. I recommend going to a dealership and sitting on one.

I am 6'0" and about 250 Lbs I just bought a 250 ninja and I get around fine on it. I have taken it all over New york and I love it.

After some extensive research and waiting in line (not literally) for about two months I finally got my 250 a few days ago. I'm 6'2" and I weight 275lbs and this bike is awesome! Gets me around town good, and easily goes over 70 on the highway. I had it going about 80mph but then slowed down because I was getting a little scared. This is my first motorcycle and it was the first time on the highway, so give me a break :)

I could probaby get it going 90 or even 100mph. I was in sixth gear and about 9k rpms at 80mph.

So does that mean all dealerships don't let us test drive their bikes?

how we going for price on the 08 Ninja 250?

yes that is a rocket in my pocket!!..

yes that is a rocket in my pocket..

I believe the MSRP is $3499. Great entry price point for what sounds like a great bike. I'm not too sure if there is going to be a price 'premium' at dealerships though. This should be a hot moving bike. My local shop has been selling them as soon as they hit the floor. Hopefully picking one up this weekend!

o wow i am getting this bike to its just i live in a middle size town and we only have one kawasaki shop that sells this bike but there are 10 wating on the list to get this bike so i might need to wait a lil while before i get this bike but my boss knows the owner of the shop so my boss is going to get me a good deal on the bike

I wanted to give one to my son for a graduation gift. The MSRP advertised on line was was just the right price, but suprise! The dealers Icalled and visited either didn't have any more left, or they were asking $4900-$5900 before tax and licence, and they were not dealing! I ended up with a United Motors 250,out the door for $4800.

Any dealer inflating the price the much is unbelievable but if it is true they're assholes because for that price ($5,900) you can get a much nicer bike. I'm going to buy a Ninja 250 and I expect one of the 6 local dealerships to compete for my business by selling it slightly under MSRP.

Heres the deal

seat height is 30inches
weight is 333lbs

Thats pretty much all that matters to me since I'm 5 feet tall and weigh 100lbs. I went to my local Kawasaki store to sit on one, and it fits nicely even though I'm tiny.

I just bought this bike last night. This morning, my husband and I went for a ride all over I - 75. I can't begin to tell you how great this bike feels to ride. I couldn't agree with the article more that for a 250cc, it feels like there's at least 100cc more on the bike. This thing hauls. Also, I noticed that some sportbikers are confused, it does look a lot like it's older brothers in the Ninja Sportbike family, especially at a glance. I highly recommend this bike.

I just got mine last wednesday. I am 6'1", 205lbs... This is my first bike so my opinion may not hold as much weight but... this bike holds me very well. I rode it all weekend and never felt cramped besides some kneck pain which is expected for long highway rides.

To be honest, everything I'm reading says this bike is the ultimate starter. I can't find a bad review even though I have tried. I am so in love, just go get one!

Whassup, my name is Tone. I am from the Philadelphia area and my goal for the summer is to learn how to ride and purchase my own motorcycle. I have always wanted to learn how to ride but now the interest has grown due to rising gas prices.

I have been obsessing over the '08 ninja 250, (Red & Black), and have been reading reviews during the down times at work. So far so good. Although my brothers and father have been saying, "Your just gonna get a little 250?!?!?", my answer continues to be, "Yup!", thanks to all the reviews. Not to mention I am going to be a new rider with no experience once I get finished my motorcycle class. I am eager to learn a lot about safe riding practices.

Anyway, the article was well put and I am looking forward to reading more once the little Ninja is more broken in.

Thanks for posting this review,

TONE

I love hearing stories like this! It takes a lot of balls to get the right motorcycle and not just succumb to the peer pressure and get a 600, 750, or 1000cc bike. Every rider I know that has started off on a 250 or 500 has been a better (and usually FASTER) rider than those that start on 600's or 1000's. One friend I know that started on a Yamaha R1 said that he 'hates turning', and only likes to go straight. Umm... last time I checked, turning was the FUN part of riding a motorcycle!!!

Ben
~Best Beginner Motorcycles Admin

I started out on a Honda CBR 600 and I am still scared to this day about turning quickly! I ended up selling the darn thing. But this time I'm going to do it right and get a 250.

yup i totally have to admit its true reason being my frist bike that i drove was a 01 zx-11
its big its heavy and extremly fast i took corners at about 2mph big bikes are extremly intemadating
they scare you unless uve had yrs of experience on them. and as soon as i jumped on a 09 ninja 250
i was flying around corners and hitting top end with ease it gives u alot more confidence than larger bikes =D

I've put a little over 43k on my 2004 EX250 in just over three years. It's the smallest bike I've ridden in my 28 years experience on the street. Its one of the best and the worst commuters I've ever owned and its also one of the best and worst I've ridden on twisty roads (more in a minute). I've taken her as far as 378 miles in a day from Glendale, CA to San Francisco and felt no more fatigued than on any other bike I've owned. She has been as dependable as any before her but then I've spent my life riding solid proven platforms: Seca650, GS450\500\750, Honda 350\450\750, Sportster 883, etc; all of them representing solid, long standing, powerplants within each manufacturers line-up. It should be mentioned as a side-bar, however, that the EX250 does not have self adjusting valves which adds to the cost of maintenance; an extra couple of hundred when the time comes.

My EX250 has kept my attention even while owning a 50th year HD Sportster because the Ninja is still fun. What current top of the line sportbike can one push to over 12k rpm on a mountain road and genuinely feel like one is pushing oneself to the limits of what the bike will do for you without killing oneself almost immediately? None. There aren't any. Try pushing an R1 to redline on the Angeles Crest and you'll rarely get out of first gear. Second gear doesn't count as "pushiing it to the limit", sorry. Anyone who tells me they have pushed their R1 to its limit on the Angeles Crest is a liar, full stop, because anyone who tries doesn't live to tell about it.

The fact of the matter is that an inexperienced rider pushing the EX250 to its limits on the Crest is just as unlikely to survive as the above mentioned but an experienced rider can damn sure push the EX250's limits in the twisties farther than any other sportbike (and STILL kill themselves if not very careful). So, anyone saying that the little Ninja is something to "grow out of" hasn't been riding on the street long enough. The Ninja is a bike one can truly grow into as a street rider. Having said that I imagine a stock 250R on a track is great fun but knowing that you're missing out on what that track can offer if riding a bigger bike would be a disappointment. Now, how many of us actually buy track days?

As I stated above the Ninja has simultaneously been a "best of "and "worst of" in some cases. I've covered the best now I'll mention the worst. They are few. Two actually: First is torque. It's not just for wheelies despite what some would think. Even though too much torque can kill a newbie not enough can be equally fatal when riding in traffic. The EX250 is woefull lacking in torque and torque helps keep one from being in the wrong place at the wrong time by getting one out of the way of imminent danger quickly. Its nimble enough that I've adjusted but it doesn't solve the real issue. My second complaint, which again seems to have been addressed in the '08 from the specs I read, are the tires. Very non-standard 16 inchers on the old version. After a couple of times having felt the back end trying to get a little squirrly on mountain turns I went looking for "stickier" tires and discovered there are few so I stuck to stock. I guess I could mention the suspension but with the stock tires there's not much point. It would seem that Kawi has addressed the shortcomings of the EX250 with the 250R.

All in all I'm very happy with my 2004 EX250 but if that "increased midrange" is what I think it is, noticeably more torque, then I can't help but be tempted to upgrade to the 250R at some point. As for anyone wanting to save a few bucks in the showroom by purchasing a pre-2008 I would say that, as good as the old one is, it sounds like the new one is well worth the extra dosh.

One more thing. I do like the retro style of the pre-2008 models better than the new ones.

Great post!

To the person who posted the review, what insurance company do you use? You mentioned some insurance companies may view the back as a cruiser, therby lowering the insurance cost. Mine ins. company does not. I'd like to find one that does.

Thanks!

I found State Farm to be the cheapest if you have all your cars and house with them.

Great Review. i found it very informative and currently am waiting for my 08 250R, to arrive at the dealership. I'm very interested to know when part 2 of this review is expected to be posted??

Cheers

parts 2 and 3 should be posted sunday or monday. :)

Ben
~Best Beginner Motorcycles Admin

i know the previous generation did 0-60 in about 5.75 seconds.....is this one slower/faster 0-60? Im not looking into getting one....i already have one xD.....got it tuesday n im happy with it....but im just curious about the 0-60 time

I'm not sure, I road one the other day and it got up to 70mph pretty quick but I didn't time myself or anything. If you have one you should time it and let us know what you get, but from my initial impression I would say that the newer version is a tiny bit faster.

Ben
~Best Beginner Motorcycles Admin

ive been looking at the hyosung motorcycles seriously, and now im bummed to see that the kawasaki seems to be a better option...the kawasaki dealers in my town are ***holes while the hyosung dealers are very nice and helpful.

Hyosung Motorcycle look horribly cheap! I didn't like the fit, finish, and overall feel of the bike. But that's just my opinion.. have you looked on youtube at the videos?

Go to the next town over and buy from them :)

Ben
~Best Beginner Motorcycles Admin

I have my deposit on a new green 250r as i veiwed the 2007's but when i saw the 2008 i knew it was for me!!!!!!
I'm five foot five and could flat foot the 2007 but on the 2008 i don't get quite there even though both feet are there. I feel that i'll have no problems controling or handling this bike. I have rode off rode my whole life and have the feeling this bike is the perfect one to make the transition to the street with. Loved the review and thanks for the input. Shoot me an opinion on this issue as this little green machine is the one that i want and is on the way. (fishing for comments lol)

As long as you can touch the pavement with your tippy-toes at least then you will be fine. I would really recommend the 08 over the 2007, it just feels so much more 'solid' when you ride it, plus it seems to have a lot more mid range. Not to mention it will win in beauty contest against the 07 any day of the week.

Ben
~Best Beginner Motorcycles Admin

The 2008 wins any day of the week!

I just picked up my Green 2008 Ninja 250R! I am super happy. I originally wanted a Black one but finally realized that black was tooooo boring!

Nice!!! Kawasaki green is the way to go :)

Post up some pics in the forum!

Ben
~Best Beginner Motorcycles Admin

i have a question i am like 6.2" in height and 280lbs in weight i am i looking to buy this motorcycle can someone please help me if this big will be good for me. i am not flabby fat but i am just talk and on a little bigger side

I asked the guy that wrote this article (gary) and he is 6 foot and the bike is comfortable for him. He said that it would be comfy up until about 6'2" or 6'3" so I think you should be fine. I hopped on the bike and i'm 5'11" and I thought it was pretty damn roomy.

Ben
~Best Beginner Motorcycles Admin

Enjoyed the review ... but when are the next parts coming? Sunday and Monday have already gone

Yes, I'm really hanging out to read the next part of the review!!!, i've been checking this space for the past 4 days straight waiting for the update!!!. Very exicited to be taking delivery of my new 250R in a couple of weeks. Cant wait :D

Let us know when you now expect the next parts to be posted

Sorry guys, Parts 2 and 3 will be released today!

Ben
~Best Beginner Motorcycles Admin

Ben plz, part 2 now. Thx.

hi, thanks a lot for the useful info found int this site.You guys rock.
I have ordered my 2008 ninja 250r, but i am a bit worried whether i would be able to reach with my feet being 5 ft 2 inches tall
I have bike experience but the bike i ride is a custom bike and it has a very low seat hieght. Does any short riders here
ever ridden this bike? If so can you please tell me how it feels and how you manage. I am a bit worried about this.
Any info and experience would be greatly appreciated.

I wouldn't worry about it. You can lower the bike so that it would fit you.

I am about to cross the line and go put my deposit down on a blue 250r! I can't wait.

I am hope to get a 08 ninja 250r but do not know if it would be able to carry me at 5-11 and weigh about 170 and also a "friend" who i plan to invite to ride with me. I dont know how much she weighs but i dont think its that much. You guys think the bike can handle both of us and still be able to ride with no problems? Thanks for your opinions

I think the bike has a weight limit over 300 lbs, so you should be good.

Ben
~Best Beginner Motorcycles Admin

Thanks for your response it answered my questions. :)

will this bike be good for me. i weigh 180-190+ pounds and im five foot eight. will this bike be a good bike for me or should i buy the ninja 500 model?

I know what the MSRP is, but what kinds of prices are you actually getting out the dealers?

I bought the 250R, (in red) on March 20, and already have 200 miles on it. It handles great, love the feel of it, the look of it, and everything about it. A few comments in regards to posts. I have American Family Ins, and pay $204 a year, full coverage, $250 deductibles. not too bad. I am 5'6", 180lbs. my wife is 160lbs (don't tell her i told her weight online) Handles great still with both of us on it. I paid the MSRP at the dealer, and with all the taxes, setup fees and other crap ($99 documentation fee) it totaled out the door $4400. Not too bad.

Hello, i'm looking to get my first sportbike and I have been concidering the ninja 250. Ive been riding at 250cc dirtbike for 3 years now and the ninja looks like a good transition into the sportbike class for me but my only concern is that I might be too large for this bike. I'm 6'4 and still growing (i'm 17) and I way about 250lbs. Is this the right bike for me or should I go with something larger? And if so....what should I get?

I'm probably going to be learning how to ride this year, and as a beginner I was planning on getting a smaller CC bike. For a long time, I have been looking at the Buell Blast, hearing that it is the perfect starter bike, however, this Kawasaki seems to be a great beginner bike as well. Could someone either recommend a bike or tell me the pros and cons of each bike? Thanks!

I rode the Buell Blast for four months during my motorcycle safety class. I was considering buying one of those as well, but the only problem I encountered was how much is shook especially at low speeds (usually in first and the lower end of second gear). Once you hit 25mph and higher it would stop. But going through traffic or back roads it would get pretty annoying pretty quick.

Hope that helps a little.

I forgot to mention that I am in love with the Triumph Bonneville... Opinions?

Bonneville is not a light bike... But, if that is the style you want, getting the Blast would lessen the transition from starter bike to dream bike.

The blast has more torque than the ninja. The two are very similar in speed, but the blast develops that speed low down in the revs, the ninja needs to be spun. The bonneville will feel like the Blast in that it doesn't need to be spun to get the power.

Also, the blast is a very upright seating position, more relaxed than the ninja (so again, if your goal is a bonneville, then the Blast will most likeyl feel closer to it - I've never ridden eithera blast or a bonneville though, so take with a grain of salt).

The blast is also a lower maintenance bike than the Ninja (It has a belt, so no oiling the chain, and it never needs a valve job).
Like all Buells, the Blast is a love-it or hate-it bike. I have one friend who loves hers to death (her husband liked it so much he bought one). Similarly, A friend who just ordered a Ninja 250R can't stand sitting on the blast, it just feels wrong to him... So as always, plunk your butt on it and see if it is the bike for you.

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"The two seconds between 'Oh S**!' and the crash isn't a lot of practice time."

Thanks alot... that was what I needed to know.

Hello everyone, it's great reading all these great posts. I've ridden small 150cc bikes when I was 12-14 years old, but not since then. I just found this site and saw the review on the Ninja 250. I was actually considering the Suzuki sv650, which from reviews on the web seems like it could be a good beginner bike. However after reading some articles/posts on this site, I'm thinking I should opt for the Ninja. Any thoughts? Weight/seat height are very similar between the two bikes.

Seeing a number of folks that have been considering different bike choices, which have included the Suzuki SV-650 and Ninja 250 on their "short-list", I did want to share a real world experience from this last weekend.

I was leading a small group ride on the '08 Ninja 250 this last weekend, through all the best twisty backroads here in the Santa Cruz mountains. One of the riders in our group was an experienced pilot that has owned bikes all the way up to the current Ducati 1098.

He'd been debating which model of bike to add to his stable; with the target usage of this new machine being a practical - but fun - weekend backroad riding machine. To make a long story short, he ended up having just picked up a new '08 Suzuki SV-650 a few days prior to joining in with it on this last weekend's excursion with the group.

About 1/2 way through the day's riding, at a stop-off point between tight little backroads (Empire Grade, to Smith Grade), I offered to let him have a go on the new '08 Ninja 250, in temporarily swapping bikes. He agreed, and off we went, with me still leading the ride ... but now on his SV-650, and him falling in right behind on the little green machine.

Keeping a view (using my mirrors) on how things were going for him, I could almost see the "ear-to-ear" grin he was sporting inside his helmet, and he cut and carved his way through the tight turns. I laughed in my helmet, knowing I'd "hooked another one"!

Sure enough, when we finally reached the end of this road, and pulled over to regroup again, his response was quite predictable ....... but cool nonetheless. His first comment? "Why didn't you let me ride this bike a week ago, and save me $5,000?" He wasn't kidding either, as he will now be going back up to the same dealership and picking up a nice shiny blue '08 Ninja 250 that they had sitting on the showroom floor last week, when he instead drove off with the SV-650.

Having a chance to ride his stock SV-650 on the same roads, while he was on the Ninja 250, I was able to see what he was feeling that turned him on so much to the little Kawi. The confidence inspiring stability, and effortless "point-it-and-it's-there" behavior of the Ninja 250, just had it all over the stock SV-650, that was a wiggly-wallowy handful on the bumpy, twisty section of road we'd just ridden. I wouldn't have believed it, if I hadn't ridden the two bikes back-to-back, and felt it first hand on real world roads. Amazing!

Granted to motor in the SV is a real gem. With enough grunt to pull tree stumps, without breaking a sweat (compared to the 250cc twin in the Ninja). However excluding the motor, the stock SV just didn't have anything to take to the table on getting down the roads we did on Sunday, versus the '08 Ninja 250.

Just some recent personal experiences with the two bikes that have been brought up in discussions here in the treads, for anyone that might have an interest.

Happy riding all,

Gary J

Hey Gary!

Thanks for the answer to this question, a lot of people seem to debate between the ninja and the SV and it looks like you have nailed that answer. It's funny how many of the older 'veteran' riders love the new ninja 250. I've been dreaming of getting my own 08 ever since you let me ride yours, although I might have to pick mine up used next year to try and save some dough. Although I wonder how many people will be selling their, so far everyone I know who rides one absolutely loves it. Haha, maybe i'll have to wait 3 or 4 years to get a used ninja ;)

Ben
~Best Beginner Motorcycles Admin

Thanks for the great response Gary! Ninja it is!

I'm shattered. I've been waiting for my 250 to arrive at my local dealership in australia since the 23rd of March. Rang the dealership today and they don't think its going to arrive for still another couple of weeks. I'm sick of waiting i want to get riding!!

~ Soon to Be proud owner of a 2008 Ninja 250R :D ( Not soon enough) :S

~ Soon to Be proud owner of a 2008 Ninja 250R :D

I hear yeah, since my wreck 2 months ago I haven't been able to ride. Now trying to get a loan for 13k for a new bike is becoming a overdrawn drama feen stresshole. Its been nine weeks now and I want to ride my bike!

~Not your average hairless monkey
Kick

~Not your average hairless monkey
Kick

i was wondering would anyone considers this bike for primary comute between work and home? on 91 freeways? excceeding 100 miles roundtrip daily?

I'm so glad I visited this board. I'm 50 yrs old, 6' 2", and about 270 lbs. (not 170, but 270!), ride a 2005 ZRX1200R, and LOVE it to death. I wouldn't sell it for 20K, and that's NO JOKE. However, my son bought a 2006 Ninja 250, and whenever I get the chance, I ride it. WHY, might you ask? Because of that ear-to-ear grin discussed earlier. Let's put it this way: my ZRX is SO damn powerful, I rarely need to exceed 5 or 6K to haul ass. I've only ever been able to open 'er up once, and only in two gears. After all, I was exceeding 100 MPH in 2nd! However, with the Ninja 250, one can put the pedal to the metal (wait, that don't work, does it?) and ride like a speed-racer everywhere, and still be in double-digit speeds. Plus, it's so fun to toss that little puppy around like you're an expert track pro. Well, my son wants his bike back! LOL SO . . . guess what this old man's about to do? You guessed it! I'm going to the local dealer and getting me the '08. With my weight, I won't have to worry about the "stiff" suspension at all. And, when I want to zip around town and still get 60+, I'll ride the Ninja. My son takes that bike all over the state (New Mexico, the 5th largest state in the U.S.), and has never had a negative issue with it. I just can't wait to get mine, and I'm very glad to see that I'm not alone. Apparently, this bike's got enough for everybody! So it won't go 170 MPH, who cares? How often do we REALLY ride that fast, anyway? Even at 90 MPH, the little Ninja doesn't seem to be huffing and puffing. I've had my son's up to 105, and he SAYS (can you tell I doubt him? LOL) he's been up to 115. My guess is it was only 110, but you get the point. I'm sure the new '08 can match, and most likely will beat, the '06's top-end. So, if 100+ MPH is OK with you, even with an over 250 lb. rider, then don't even think twice. GET ONE BEFORE THEY'RE GONE! I'll see you on the asphalt - that is, if I recognize that you're on a 250, and not a 600!

Me and my brother are seriously considering each getting a 250R, especially after seeing them on the show room floor. We don't ride now and want to take a motorcycle safety course first before we get them so it may be next year before we do. He likes the black one but I like brighter colors for visibility. Would you agree that brighter colors are more safe, especially for newbies like us? Also, as far as riding attire, any recommendations? I really like SHOEI helmets but any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Chad

whats the rpm on the bike when its doing about 80...i too am considering this for a commuter bike and want to know...dont want to be going a constant speed that is...bad for the bike...

Hello...EveryOne..
Ive Read some Great reviews and im in love with the 250.. im really thinken of getting ride of my car and getting a bike for the summer to SAVE money on Gas. I would be sharen a car with my Mom which is no Problem at all.. BUT i wanted to know if anyone has had any problem learning how to ride.. i mean i get the hole concept im just scared.. i really want to learn and do it saftley but i dont want to Wreck the Bike.. should i get a used one or get the 08.. Im not to sure..But i think i am going to do it soon i just need to find a dealer Near me.. Thanks Everyone for advice and things you all have posted.....it all helps...

I was going to buy a used Ninja 250, maybe an 06 or something , but when i read all the reviews on the 08 i decided to go for that one. Ya you might scratch it but the ride is sooo much better.

I live in LA, and I'm interested in getting a bike which will mostly be used for commuting. I WAS looking at a Nighthawk 250 because it looks and feels like it would be a comfortable bike to go back and forth to work on... but then I came across the Ninja 250, and I fell totally in love with it visually. There is no denying it looks kick ass.

How comfortable is it to ride though? My only real concern is leaning forward.. does it get fatiguing?

I'm only riding 13 miles each way on my commute, but I'm a newbie on a bike. I've never owned one, in fact the only ridding I've ever done was in a class I took 2 years ago. I WANT the Ninja 250 because it's hot, but I don't want to make a mistake buying my first bike. Any thoughts on general comfort, and control for the inexperienced?

i can relate to having a bike that is too fast. that's a big reason why i bought a new '08 ninja 250. my triumph is just too fast for around here with a 55 mph speed limit. i've been riding for many years and have owned 20+ bikes, harleys, bmws and triumphs mostly. i have 5 bikes now but ride the ninja most of the time. if i feel like going somewhere i just go. this is a really fun bike, handles like a dream. the truck is parked for the summer...

Hello.... I have been looking at getting a new bike for a year now. I have never rode one by myself, but I am taking a class soon. Everyone is trying to get me to start with at least a 600cc because of my size. After reading all of the posts and magazine articles, I think that this is the right one for me. Besides I am not looking for major power, I am looking to learn and enjoy my motorcycle. Am I making the right choice on purchasing the Ninja 250 or should i go bigger?

I've had my '08 Little Green Ninja 250 for about 2 1/2 months now with 900 miles on it. I weigh 125 and this bike suits me fine and has plenty of power for my size. The only problem that I can see with this bike is that it's sitting as low as it can and I haven't been able to mash it down so that I'm more comfortable when stopping. On a good day without any wind, at most stops, I'm on my tippy toes, but comfortable. However, when you add the wind that we've been having in Texas these last few weeks, I start to get nervous that I will drop the bike sitting at a red light because of the extra movement the wind causes. All-in-all this is a great little bike and I have had more fun on it and enjoyed it even more than I thought I would. Mine was ordered 2 days before Christmas and it took over 10 weeks to get here......but definitely worth the wait! I've also parked my truck for the summer as I'm getting around 61 mpg.

I recently purchased an 08 250r Ninja on Ebay, for about 200 over dealer OTD price. i did this because I had waited 2 months for mine to be delivered and it never came. So I decided the spring weather was worth $200. Now for the bike. I am 5,11 and 180. The bike is ok. My butt doesn't have a solid home on the seat, I start out balls to the tank and wind up ass on the cowl.(I purchased the optional cowling, it makes carrying a backpack difficult but looks terrific) The handlebars put waaay to much weight on your wrists no matter how you sit. They sell risers and strangely I am considering them, however, when driven in anger (I just crossed 500mi, that's all I can take of the break-in) the bars allow for strong turning at speed and slow turns. Here are some other impressions: The clutch is too long in pull and not adjustable. I don't have basketball hands but still, it's too long and works out your finger muscles. The brakes are excellent, but learn to use both to avoid locking the front when braking under weight at high speed. Oh yeah, I ALMOST NEVER USE THE BRAKES. You have so many short gears you can downshift to 10 mph before you need to brake. The wind protection is great, almost amazing, you can tuck in very tight like a real sportbike. The engine is hilarious. It pulls mild in the bottom and hard in the middle, and screams bloody murder while it creeps all the way to 98 mph. Possiblly higher if you are going down hill as I was getting blown around quite a bit at this speed. This bike will be a difficult commuter for anyone over 5,8. Why? The ergos are too tight (no leg room, mirrors are almost useless for over 5,8) and the noise is a bit much. You have to hold the throttle 8/10 for 40 minutes and your throttle/brakehand goes numb. There is vibration through the bars at high rpm. The turn-in is excellent and this is a very easy to ride bike for beginners. It is a lot of fun on back roads. Really spectacular fun to shift in and out while dropping sideways. I keep up with a Ducati Monster and a Honda Shadow easily through turns. But on the straights I am left BEHIND. This bike must be driven hard to have fun. I have many issues with the tranny not clicking through neutral after hard breaking. You MUST downshift through every gear into first to start in first or you will have to roll it forward. Now it is probably a safety feature but it happens sometimes that you need to stop quickly from over 60 mph, I shouldn't find myself trapped at a stoplight because of this. That is crap and I hope the dealer can fix it. All in all, I have ripped this bike apart for you. Now you go buy one, because it is a wonderful toy for the summer, and while a little challenging at first for greenies, is an easy to learn toy. I will be selling mine soon for something bigger so I can commute and ride stress free on the highway. Maybe a 650r, because it gets you to wanting one of those. You WILL learn to shift in turns, trailbrake, and knee slide (sort-of) with this bike if you want. It is at home on short blasts around neighborhoods or trips down backroads. It is downright annoying on long trips and the highway. It can do the speed, but the activity is constant. maybe i am just getting older and want something a little more relaxed. Headlights work well(use high beams all the time if you are smart) But that's what a beginners bike SHOULD do. Oh yeah my first tank? 67 MPG when kept under 4 g. That's the end of that debate, best MPG I have ever seen. Real bikers will laugh at this as soon as they hear the wheezy twin rattling down the road, so don't pose, unless you want to get laughed at. It may fool some girls and old folks, but anyone who rides will quickly rate you as a puss. It looks great parked but gets short when you mount up. Sits low like a cruiser for me, but shorter riders will be in heaven. I am comfortable on a CBR 600rr, so use that as a reference. None the less, it is a solid learning platform and should be taken as it is with pride, and wring it's f*&ing neck out!

that's was a really great review - thanks!

Hi, could someone post what the rev's are at a few speeds? In particular at 100km/h (62mph). Thanks.

I have seen several requests for this info and am happy to comply.

2008 Ninja 250R Realworld Speed and RPM's:
4000 - 10,000 is the powerband. Hits hard at 5100 - 8100 and again at 10k - 11,100k .

10 MPH = 4500 RPM in 1st; or 3400 in 2nd (1st to 2nd shift is immediate on take-off)
20 MPH = 5100 RPM in 2nd or 4000 in 3rd (4th is not a viable option here)
30 MPH = 6300 RPM in 3rd or 5100 in 4th or 4500 in 5th or 3200 in 6th (barely lugs it..but it will do it!)
40 MPH = 8100 RPM in 3rd or 6800 in 4th or 5800 in 5th or 5100 in 6th (smooth running in sixth at 40!)
50 MPH = 8600 RPM in 4th or 7800 in 5th or 6500 in 6th (redlines in 2nd +11,000 in 3rd, not a good idea)
60 MPH = 9100 in 5th or 7100 in 6th (4th is around 10,800 and will hit redline quick, good for emergency passing only)
70 MPH = 8100 in 6th (I have never tried 5th here, I think it would be 10,000 or so)
80 MPH = 9600 in 6th (sounds become intense with wind and exhaust)
90 MPH = 10,100 in 6th (ridiculous, takes forever to get here and you'll want to leave as soon as you arrive. This bike gets wobbly in the wind over 60 MPH, so tuck in to achieve 90 MPH +, If you plan on turning here, sit back on the seat and knees TIGHT against the tank for lean control, don't touch the brakes at all up here.)

Braking takes about 25 ft from 30 MPH, but well over 150 ft from 60 MPH, at least with my 480 mi 250R.
Remember that if you try the higher speeds, even with engine braking, you will need LOTS of space to get this bike down to a stop. It only has one disk and the front will lock if pulled to deep.

20 MPH corners can be taken at 30 - 40 MPH easily with this bike, just drop into 3rd and roll on out of the turn. Sweet!

Ride Safe

I finally picked up my 08' NINJA 250 yesterday. Yay!!! I already had 50 miles on it when I got home from the dealership on mostly local roads and some highway. I am a beginner so I am trying to learn more about this bike. When starting off at a stop light (on 1st gear), it doesn't seem to give me much speed unless I rev it up to 5000 or 6000RPM. Then I kicked it into 3rd gear (skipping 2nd) immediately to pick up speed because there were a lot of cars behind me. I was riding mostly on 6th gear on the way home. At what RPM's or speeds should I shift gears (1st ->2nd, 2nd ->3rd, ...)? Is it ok to skip gears? Also, when I pull in the clutch and shift gear, should I immediately let go of the clutch or ease it out? I am afraid to wear out the clutch. I noticed my wrists weren't feeling very comfortable on the way home due to the pressure on them from the position. Other than that, I LOVE this bike!!! I wanted to get the green one, but it would have to be another couple weeks. So I ended up taking this blue one after waiting 2 weeks.

It took me at least a month to finally find a 250R in a dealership so I could try it out before I signed up to buy one. Most importantly, however, is that I wanted to know if I was wasting my entire summer on trying to chase a bike that wasn't even the right one for me (first bike). Literally no one in my home state (Wisconsin) had any in stock, not even any waiting for delivery. I didn't even want to ride one but rather at least sit on it and size it up.

I took a few business trips (no really, we have stores in four states) out to the Minnesota area and after three weeks managed to find a dealership (Cycle City- Rochester, MN) who had one waiting for pickup. Sweet!! Or so I thought...

It is a awesome looking bike, but when I sat on it I found I I was too big for the bike. I'm only 155 lbs, 6'1" tall, but I guess I have long legs or something. I could *not* tuck my legs into the sides of the tank/bike. The sides of my knees hit the top of the curve in the side of the fuel tank where your knees *should* go. The only way I could tuck in was to basically sit so far forward that the fuel tank was shoved up into my crotch. My legs could then tuck in, but the angle wasn't very comfortable for my feet on the pegs or to shift it. Bummer, but it was a very good experience to finally see one and size it up. Obviously, for me, I was chasing what was otherwise a great beginner bike; but I would have hated the way it felt.

Considering an 08 250r? So you've read all this, and my long-winded review and you still don't know whether this bike will work for you?

I understand, so here is some good info to help: I have had mine for 3 months now. It is awesome.
To make one awesome takes an investment of time and money:

1.Dyno Jet 2180. Not legal in california or NJ. Just about amazing, huge power, usable rev band down low and big bump up high. Now you can commute on the highway and hit 120 mph.

2. Area P exhaust. 12 for track 18 for street. also illegal in CA and NJ for street use. Buy it anyway. More power, sounds great! People pull up and say, wow cool bike! (it's because of the exhaust)

3.Rear set and 15t sproket If you are over 5,8, get the new rearset, gives you a race bike peg position that will keep your knees under the tank and your butt back on the seat. Sproket will relax the revs on the highway.

Now those three will change this bike into something you will want to ride everyday. i can keep up with anything else at legal speeds (ok you will have to downshift to "explode" and your bike bike buddies won't but hey..) and now I can also scare myself silly on the highway (120+) so far...

about $1000 extra for all this....

The Area P exhaust is easy enough to find I've discovered searching around on the internet, but I went on the Dyno Jet website and didn't see a 2180 in the 250-550cc section. Actually, I went from the top of the page all the way down into the 1100-1500 section looking for it and didn't find it. Does that just mean that they're currently out of stock?

that's because the correct dynakit for that bike is the 2193, not the 2180, try googling it, you should get what you're after

ya, im a new driver all together (18) but i want the 250r cuz its affordable, my concern is weather situations, insurance, theft, and purchase ability (co-signer, no credit, gonna live in an apt. complex)im gonna try to put a couple thousand down and i need it to go to work and school, and it would be my first bike, im not really worried about size, im 5'7 and about 140 pounds, so i should be good, here are my questions, how much would insurance be?.... how to protect myself against cold and rain?.... a good anti-theft system ( if theres one)?....what is a good carry limit for items (i.e books, clothes, school crap)?..... oh ya and that whole "breaking in thing" as soon as i get the bike im gonna have to go about 40 to 50 mph would that damage anything in the bike?....

your answers are greatly appreciated.

I am practically brand new to the motorcycling world but through the research I've done all answers point to the 08' ninja 250r for my first bike. My question is two part. Is the ninja 250r the best 250 to have (being in the states w/o much other choice)? and should I get the new 08' or get an older model? I would really like to hear the advice of some people with more experience in the motorcycle world. Thanks.

Just like Chuck, I am a young (22yrs old) newbie. I actually only have a permit and have been on a motorcycle twice in my life. I don't have any real experience yet but will be taking the MSF course asap. I have had a drivers license for three years and I am working on getting that M class endorsement. What can I expect to pay for insurance in MA or just anywhere as a newbie? I'd just like a ball park figure if anyone would happen to know. Also, like Chuck, I'm in school and work. Would the '08 250R be a good choice for commutes to school and work? What is the carrying limit for cargo like books and clothes? Would it be an issue? Is there a good anti-theft system that doesn't involves camouflage and sleeping by the bike with a shotgun? Can someone please explain the breaking in process cause it has me baffled.
Thanks
I'd appreciate any and all input.

Well everyone hailing the ninja 250 but how or what about the honda cbx 250? Single cylinder and around 20hp, less than the ninja but roadster like..and and its cousin the yamaha ybr 250, same old school folks. I have riden the cbx250 and personally i like it: nice boost and handles quite well but the suspension and braking...5-6/10...but my favourite, the suzuki gsf 250 bandit with I-4 and logically doubles in hp compared to the block 250. Missile acceleration and rock braking, require some nerves to control it.Not to mention the honda 250 hornet, also with an in-line 4.

But personally, on the internet, possibilities of a beginner bike has been put to give beginners an idea, but it all depends on one's taste, that is, whether the person prefers racing style or hooligan style because I would rather choose the cbx250 or bandit 250 as first bike because all these fairings have not melted me enough but I prefer the hooligan style + the abominaldevil sound of the INLINE 4!!! Yeah! There are many factors contributing into someone choosing a first bike, like I mentioned; style, power, performance, milleage and also availability + etc. Its like choosing a spouse or well, first good galfwen ;p to have experience before committing to ZE ONE!!lol.

The more cylinders the more smoothness of engine but power given at high rpms. Fewer cylinders give more rugged force and midrpm but the 'feel' of vibration increases. Well anyways my first bike was as you can see on the photo but i will not give much details and well yeah just that it is full of aftermarket parts and was 100cc. Who's laughing at this? Somewhere somewhat everyone has to start riding a tricycle or one with four wheels(2big&2 side small) before moving to two..lol.. Did lots of crashes and breakups and lean effects and skiddind and burouts!!! Ouuh yeah 100cc does do burnouts, if ye know how to... ;D lol. I want to be a progressive rider, that is, 100cc, then 250 then 600+ but inbeetween the 250 and 600+...maybe... But well so um yeah do tell me people what are your opinions of the other 250's as well as the super 250's(bandit/hornet)

BoOZe
Solomolo Rider ;D

BoOZe
Solomolo Rider ;D

Just wondering about the MPG other people are getting. I changed the front sprocket to a 15T and my mileage is settling in around 61 mpg. My commute is approx 12 miles averaging 55 mph most of the way. No real city driving. I have noticed an increase when I run strickly marine gas without ethanol. But only 3 mpg more.

I have ordered a 40T rear sprocket for the rear changing to see how it handles with a 2.67 ratio. The only drawback will be first gear. I notice a slight difference with the 15T.

Also, when you change the jets, did you get an increase in mpg?

Fyi.....info purposes, I am 225 lbs and 5'10". I use this as a commuter over the R1 I have in the garage. For the first time riders, two of my friends purchased 600's as their first bike. Between them, they got 7 tickets and 3 wrecks. One has already purchase a Ninja 250 after riding mine. It was to easy to go fast on a 600 or bigger.

how about lowering the back to 36? i dunno what bike you using? and what are the jets you ppl talk about?
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BoOZe
Solomolo Rider ;D

BoOZe
Solomolo Rider ;D

I have almost hit the 600 marker and I 've been having trouble with the gas tank humming till I open the thing. And some times it hums for hours. Is that normal

The dealer said he has had a lot of comments on this. He said it was normal and the tank humming is the pressure relief valve on the tank. Mine is black and makes the noise consistenly in warm weather.

Hey, I have a really hard time on the freeway! I can't really go past 50-60mph, I get thrown around in the wind, and
combo'd with those horrible rain groves,...makes it VERY tough for me to ride. I get wobbly and people just run me down!
What can I do!! I am a new rider, and weigh 180 or so. I want to be able to go on tha freeway but, it's soooo scary! Everyone says it's in my head, but I don't think so. I currently have 750 miles on my bike and taking it for it's first tune-up tomorrow at tha lovely Donati Motorsports in Santa Cruz. Those guys are awesome and treated me with high respect when I came in there looking for this bike almost 2mo ago. So shout out to Donati!!! And yes I'll be driving ovr tha hill just to give them my business!
Thanks ;)

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