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If a Squid is a 'kid' on a 'sportbike' in flip flops/tennis shoes, a t-shirt, shorts and a helmet(maybe).....what do you call a 40+ accountant on a 1800 Harley wearing a t-shirt, jeans, deck shoes and a beanie/half-shell?

Just curious.....

AFAIK, there is no age

A's picture

AFAIK, there is no age criteria for being a squid... nor a poseur..

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Gary856's picture

That well known South Park episode will answer your question. ;-)

This one takes it to a whole new level

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paste this into your browser and lol:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2fa_1267325983

Yup...

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That's pretty rediculous...and I don't mean it in a good way! What an idiot...How about a squid with his son on the back being a Jr. squid...Dad about 30ish, son about 6ish...tank tops shorts and flip flops both...atleast they were wearing helmets...

Welcome to Sylvan Lake in the summer, they are everywhere...lol

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JackTrade's picture

Just like in the wild, squids come in all sorts of varieties. Based on the fauna I observe locally:

Sportbike squid - super expensive, racer-replica helmet, sometimes decent gloves, but tank top/billowing shirt, jeans and at best high-top sneakers, but often flip flops.

Cruiser squid - half-helmet at most, t-shirt with bike company logo, jeans, fingerless gloves, and bad-ass shades.

Touring squid - similar to cruiser squid, but with 3/4 helmet and often with shorts.

Standard squid - clothing appropriate for any activity other than motorcycling, since bike is just for commuting to work, store, mall, etc.

Scooter squid - same as standard squid, just less of it, including no training or license or registration required.

Interestingly, I've never seen a dual-sport squid.

Dual-Sport squid

TrialsRider's picture

is the guy who dumps his bike in a river crossing, takes the time to get some photographs of his drowning motorcycle before getting it upright, only to return to his toxic spill bike and discover it wont start because the engine is full of water.

Kentucky squids

Here it is no helmet, maybe a doo-rag over your hair, no gloves, no jacket, maybe shorts, and maybe sneakers. The excuses- it is too hot to wear protective gear, and there is no helmet law.

A friend at work just bought a Harley Ultraglide, and is selling his Honda Goldwing- more money for a less comfortable bike, but he fits in with about 3 out of 4 riders here with Harleys, especially older guys with more money. I wonder if he will drink the koolaid for no protective gear as well.

Alaskan Cruiser Squids

owlie's picture

Okay- typical jeans, Harley t-shirts and tennis shoes... Add on full-face helmet hanging off the sissy bar as he cruises down the highway...

I always love the squids

CBBaron's picture

I always love the squids dodging city traffic at insane speeds with their helmet firmly attached to the back of the bike. ????!!!

Seeing a cruiser rider around here with a helmet or jacket is a rare sight. Though fingerless gloves and black boots seem to be part of the image.

Craig

Okay, so while it always

owlie's picture

Okay, so while it always bothers me (and has for years- even before I knew anything about riding gear), at least now I know what's going on. In Alaska, there is no helmet law for the driver, but there is for the pillion passenger. I can only assume that these guys are carrying the unused helmet for their girlfriends (or simply hoping to get lucky). Doesn't make them any smarter, but it is something of an explanation. :)

I'll flip the coin here :) I

I'll flip the coin here :) I went to a demonstration by the CHIP several years ago. I believe it was billed as the Olympics of Motorcycle riding or California Motorcycle Olympics or something along those lines.

By and large the Police issue helmet is not full faced. Some don't wear gloves and some wear the highly made fun of fingerless gloves. They have highly recognizable knee high black boots of course, but in general no one would consider them "all geared". I challenge anyone to match those guys skills. Borders on the unbelievable.

I'm not here to advocate anything except making sensible, informed decisions about what is the correct choice for each individual rider. By and large I never ride without full face, boots and gloves with the rare exception of days I dawn a Davida helmet. On the other hand I find it difficult to judge others based on my personal opinions of proper gear.

That said of course, it's safe to say there are new riders here and all over the country that are geared up to the n'th degree and still represent a danger to themselves and others. Conversely there are California Highway Patrol guys and gals that although not totally geared up are undoubtedly among the safest, most talented motorcycle riders on earth.

It's of course obvious there are some pretty bad riders out there and some of them aren't wearing enough gear to hedge their bets. Natural Selection ultimately settles that score.

Gearing up however, in and of itself, does NOT make anyone a talented, informed or safe motorcyclist.

A good point I think

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I'd hate for a newbie to think that gearing up makes it okay to treat their neighborhood like a racetrack.

I think what's really behind squid discussions like this is correlations. It's not that gear makes one automatically safer, but rather that wearing gear often correlates with increased safety, both b/c it directly protects you, but also b/c it's indicative of a certain mindset.

I've seen utterly dangerous squids fully geared up, and I've seen masterful riders wearing cotton windbreakers. But they're outliers, and statistically anyway, not wearing the proper gear is positively connected with worse outcomes (one of the big findings of the Hurt and other reports).

To be sure, all of us to some extent compromise on safety (except for perhaps Eternal and Megaspaz, who I always think of as riding around in full leather race suits with the aero hump on the back), but there does seem to be a baseline for basic safety...I'm just guessing here, but I imagine what DMVs usually recommend for gear (which is pretty basic) is the level at which if you go below, you're going to have significantly worse outcomes.

I think for law enforcement, the decrease in safety by their lack of gear is compensated for by their skill/experience/training. There are probably many situations where we'd lose it and crash with injuries, but a motorcycle cop wouldn't.

I'd bet overall, law enforcement accidents tend to be much fewer in number than civilian, but with more injuries when they do happen.

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eternal05's picture

"...except for perhaps Eternal and Megaspaz, who I always think of as riding around in full leather race suits with the aero hump on the back..."

Priceless.

Dude, I totally feel cheated

owlie's picture

Dude, I totally feel cheated now! Gotta plan another trip to Seattle....

Done.

eternal05's picture

Just remember to bring the bike this time. Somehow. From Alaska...

...ok maybe not, but it would be cool!

+1 - very true that gear

owlie's picture

+1 - very true that gear doesn't make the rider.

I read somewhere the reason

I read somewhere the reason that most police departments stick with half helmets is because they are less intimidating to anyone they might pull over. The difference between being pulled over by Officer Friendly and Darth Vadar. Another reason might be whenever a police officer comes into contact with any unknown person, including traffic stops, I do believe they are supposed to keep their eyes on them at all times. You never know when an innocuous situation can turn dangerous in a fraction of a second. This would be nearly impossible with a FF as there is a moment or two when you're taking the helmet off that you are essentially blinded. Don't know for certain if either of these factor into gear decisions for police departments or not, but they might. Of course, the latter could be alleviated with a modular.

WA State Patrol use flip-up helmets.

Only in the last 5 years or so, the Washington State Patrol, when they have the motorcycles out, use flip-up helmets. Local police, though, still go with the half helmets.

I thought

I thought that the reason they wear 3/4 helmets was because it is easier to talk to someone and have them hear your instructions and you hear what they say clearly. Here in Oregon, most of the police use flip-up helmets.

I don't really care what kind of gear or helmet they are wearing, personally I think that all motorcycle police are about as intimidating as Cadet/Officer Hightower from Police Academy would be if he pulled you over.

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It's not the level of skill of the rider that would be in question...I think an inattentive driver could change lanes just as easily into a skilled rider as a newbie, especially if it is a quick lane change to "not miss" an exit ramp...I'm sticking to my gear...if I have to take a tumble on the shoulder of the road, I would rather be wearing my gloves, jacket and full face helmet. The police around here wear gloves and a helmet, but just a short sleeved shirt on the hot days. As for the DMV requirements...a helmet is required, and they suggest pants and long sleeves...the only gear is the helmet.

Of course the rider training class advocates ATGATT, and enforces it...if you show up for the class without the gear, you are asked to leave...you can go get your gear and come back, but you can't participate without...boots over the ankle, gloves, DOT helmet and jacket (minimum jean, but recommend leather or riding jacket). They also recommend bringing rain gear, just incase...the courses run rain or shine...I was lucky!

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Rider #1 non sex specific,

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Rider #1 non sex specific, non bike style specific-
"Man I know they got to be hot as all get out under all that gear. Had to cost them a fortune too... or mom and dad.... can't tell their so decked out in the latest and greatest its hard to see what they are....gotta be limiting in movement and visibility too..... god I know it's gotta suck at a red light for them....bet all the kids smile at them too thinking they look all Power Ranger-ish........and that one over there in the day glow...... they looking to be a moving target for something above.... maybe they are running from Grape Ape.........."

Rider #2 non sex specific, non bike style specific-
"Look at the idiot. All they have on is a helmet and some gloves.... what good is that going to do them if they go down?.....betcha they think they look badd ass in those sunglasses to.....what happens if a bug smacks 'em right in the forehead while riding?..... what about weather.... oh I see the full face on the sissy bar....fat lot of good that's going to do him if he has an unscheduled get off.... you'd never catch me in some thing like that on my bike........."
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Common denominator between the two riders...... both are so busy JUDGING the other that they have effectively become just as much danger to themselves and said rider by paying more attention to the other rather then what is in front of them........ Ride your own ride, carefully, attentively and for the best reason.... for the enjoyment. Let THEM worry about what their risks are!

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