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Submitted by RidleytheRed on Tue, 11/10/2009 - 21:50
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Probably the first sport bike I'd consider buying. Too bad it's a concept. XD
http://www.autoblog.com/gallery/bmw-concept-6/#2

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Yea, I didn't go that way in

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Submitted by Elwood1960 on Wed, 11/11/2009 - 01:12.

Yea, I didn't go that way in the end, but the BMW's in general looked like darn fine machines. Just could not get past the pegs being under and behind me. (-; I like forwards . .what can I say. They have a sport bike on the floor already, and it is no slouch . . .

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I've sat on a few cruisers

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Submitted by WeaponZero on Wed, 11/11/2009 - 01:23.

I've sat on a few cruisers with forward foot controls and honestly it feels downright scary. I just don't "feel" like I'm in control of the bike in the seating position they put you in. It makes even basic stuff seem scary because I just don't feel like I can lean the way I need to.

Grew up riding more or less

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Submitted by Elwood1960 on Wed, 11/11/2009 - 01:55.

Grew up riding more or less that way. You just have to learn to use and trust the bike is all. For basic street riding. .its just a matter of comfort. For high speeds and extreem riding, better to have your legs behind you for support and the abailty to shift about in the saddle . . just isnt anything I do in the end. For me that basic lounge chair seating in traffic is far more comfortable. Everything about it is easy to me . . . . .

Just a matter of comfort and preference for the most part I think. Curling my legs in behind me makes my hips cramp up quick. (-;

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To put a finer point on

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Submitted by Munch on Wed, 11/11/2009 - 03:14.

To put a finer point on it....cruisers require more input on the rider instead of just leaning. A lot of counter steer is needed. The only lean you really need to do is keeping yourself in line with the bike and not so much to initiate the turn.

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Submitted by eternal05 on Thu, 11/12/2009 - 00:33.

While at a slow speed, the lower weight of a sportbike will mean your bodyweight will have more of an effect than it will on a big cruiser, you can't turn a sportbike by hanging off. Ultimately proper sport riding has turns starting at the bars, just as with any other bike.

You're right though: a cruiser rider might have to be more aware of overt inputs on the bars at slower speeds than a sportbike rider. At anything above 35-40mph, however, bodyweight shifts lose effect, even on sportbikes.

I tried a Harley Sportster

Submitted by samgoody on Wed, 11/11/2009 - 09:49.

I tried a Harley Sportster with forward foot controls twice, and felt the same way as WeaponZero. Every time I'd lean the bike over to make u-turn, I felt like I was hanging on to it by the handlebars, which made me tighten my grip even more. I didn't feel like I was able to stay tight on the bottom and keep my arms loose up top. Was I doing something wrong, perhaps? I'd love to know how the cruiser riding folks manage it.

I think the main thing is

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Submitted by WeaponZero on Wed, 11/11/2009 - 15:01.

I think the main thing is that the ergonomics of standard and sportbikes give you even MORE control naturally those of us who are used to that extra control don't know what to do without it =)

When I rode my friends RR1000

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Submitted by Elwood1960 on Wed, 11/11/2009 - 21:34.

When I rode my friends RR1000 i was way tense. Every input feels exaggerated. Felt like you almost "fall" into a turn.

I think in answer to your question, Munch hit it on the head. You are trying to "handle the bike" . . if you are on a sport bike now, that sporty is right next to 600 lbs, more weight, different riding position . . you dont "handle" that bike . .you get good at letting her handle herself. feather the rear brake, friction zone .. the subtle control skills go up. No faking it on the big machines. (-;

That said . .I cold learn my Friends RR 1000, you could learn the sporty . .they are just "new" to us .. that does not make them "hard". New wears off pretty quick and then it becomes easy again.

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