Another control measurement by the G-man... freedom after freedom ...goin... goin....
http://www.ncleg.net/gascripts/BillLookUp/BillLookUp.pl?Session=2009%20%...
Yet another bill to take away our rights... as riders and this time as parents!
http://www.ncleg.net/gascripts/BillLookUp/BillLookUp.pl?Session=2009%20%...
Yet another bill to take away our rights... as riders and this time as parents!
To sum it up... apparently we
To sum it up... apparently we are no longer able to judge for ourselves if our kids should be able to ride with us.
Also from AMA:
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04/12/2009 Action Alert - No Passengers Under 16 Years Old!
North Carolina Legislation Affects Parental Rights
House Bill 920, introduced by Representative R. Van Braxton (D-Kinston), would prohibit motorcycle operators from carrying any passenger under 16 years of age. The bill was filed on March 31 and referred to the House Committee on Transportation April 1.
If you believe that a parent or guardian, not the government, is best qualified to determine at what age their child is able to be a passenger on a motorcycle, you MUST speak out and stop this legislation.
Many families travel and recreate on motorcycles. To deny parents or guardians the right to include their own children in a form of transportation and recreation is an infringement on parental rights.
Here’s what YOU can do to stop this bill from becoming law:
1) Contact Representative R. Van Braxton’s office (919-715-3017 or Van.Braxton@ncleg.net) and respectfully tell him why you OPPOSE HB-920.
2) Contact Representative Becky Carney’s office (919-733-5827 or Becky.Carney@ncleg.net) and respectfully ask her NOT to bring HB-920 up for a hearing.
3) Contact your representative to encourage him or her to OPPOSE HB-920. Use the AMA “Issues and Legislation” page Issues & legislation of interest to motorcyclists or the North Carolina General Assembly’s “Who Represents Me?” North Carolina General Assembly - Home Page link to obtain the telephone and email address for your representative.
Here are a few talking points:
1) Responsible motorcyclists with children, not the government, know how to safely transport their own children and know at what age their children are ready to be a passenger on a motorcycle.
2) Passenger age restriction bills such as HB-920 often result from domestic disputes; an ex-spouse suddenly decides that his or her child is not safe on a motorcycle operated by her or his ex. This issue should be resolved in the courts between the disputing parties, not in the legislature.
3) This bill is not about safety – it’s about parental rights.
If you don’t take action NOW, you may lose your rights as a parent or guardian to transport and recreate on a motorcycle with your own children. Stop HB-920 NOW.
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Just getting caught upon this
Just getting caught upon this stuff.
Cant help think of the girl I dated in the 80's . .her 10 year old kid brother tearing up a motocross track, one of the top ten rated in the nation with sponsors and all . . . today he would not be able to get his first mini bike to start on because the government is afraid he'll get lead poisoning from it, he would not be able to spend all that quality time riding with his dad now either apparently on the grown up machine because mommy government knows best . . .
How sad an excuse for a people we are becoming when we allow folks to tell us how to live and raise our own children.
2006 Harley Davidson Dyna Wide Glide
Sales, Peterson's North Miami Store
I whole heartedly agree. I
I whole heartedly agree. I have sent this to everyone "biker" in NC that I know of and also sent e-mails to the so called representatives in hopes to getting this thing squashed.
****We know yesterday existed because we remember it, the future we can not predict as it has yet to happen, and the moment you say now it becomes the memorable past...so WHEN in time do we exist?****
I went ahead and posted this
I went ahead and posted this on the other two boards I frequent . .stir the pot some. (-; This one was flying under the radar . . this is the first people are hearing of it. Canada has one about to pass, or just did pass with the age being 14.
2006 Harley Davidson Dyna Wide Glide
Sales, Peterson's North Miami Store
I must have missed the news story
Was there some recent report showing that child passengers are suddenly dying? Is taking a Saturday ride with dad now more likely to end in tragedy than having your kid hang with the local gang bangers behind 7-11?
This is typical non-sense -- legislators trying to stay busy and satisfy a minority of constituents by addressing a non-problem.
If they really wanted to make it safer for kids, they'd do something like create passenger/rider training programs and make triple traffic violation fines when you're carrying a minor.
Besides, what kind of ID is my 14-year-old supposed to show (library card??)?
+1 and a good laugh as
+1 and a good laugh as well...lol, a library card
I'll tell ya. I have to ask
I'll tell ya. I have to ask myself when it is that these people decided it was OK to just pass these kinds of laws? Have we really "empowered" them that much? You have it exactly right . .what prompts such radical intrusion of family choices? Whats next? Boats, bikes, convertibles?
This way, way, way over reaches. Even the "if it saves just one" argument wont pass muster. Not even if is saved 1000. The cost in lost freedom on the personal level is to high. You cant save kids from foolish parents by targeting a small segment of them that happen to own motorcycles. If we let them do it what we do lose is a basic and fundamental right that is "god given" . .not "state given". The right to raise our own kids and share our passions with them. (Yea, I know, I dont believe in god, but it is still true and the right way to see it . .I am not free because our Fed allows it, I am free because I wont allow myself to be otherwise and will not allow the Fed to change it.) State given rights can be taken, god given rights can not be taken by the state . . nice way to do personal "litmus tests" when considering all these crazy laws.
I can be found in the street these days making some noise. ((-;
2006 Harley Davidson Dyna Wide Glide
Sales, Peterson's North Miami Store
I have never heard of the 14
I have never heard of the 14 law here in Canada. But I think you might be getting it confused with what DID just happen up here. Now, its a provincial thing, but its in 4 now, that I know of.
You must be 14 years of age, WITH a learners license, to operate a 'scooter' under 50cc.
You must be 16, with a valid license, to operate a motorcycle.
(and I'll also through this one in here, just cause it passed to)
You may now get a learners license for a motor vehicle at 14 with parent/guardian consent. You may then take your road test at 16 to get a restricted license, with the knowledge that you may NOT drink, consume drugs, be a teacher for any learner, or have a full class without restrictions until 18 years of age.
Its called graduated driving. Its here in Alberta now.
This is for STREET only.
You can still tear up the grass on farms or other private property with consent of the owner of the land, and owner consent- bike or farm equipment.
Thats what DID pass.... as of Jan /09
And frankly, its been good- so far. Lets just hope these new drivers are more aware of us, then their ignorant parents are.
I say this from all my close calls.
As for packing your children, its just another example of "big brother knows best" and it STINKS! Whats next, Your going to tell us what clothes to DRESS our kids in? Freeking ludicrous!
Oh, and what happens when people from other states or provinces TAKE our children with us, on our bikes, INTO these restricted states? They walk beside us now?
GRRRR!!!!!!